ELECTION 2014 - Merged Threads

[Jer]

Well that could be it... I'm totally on the fence, family wants me to move to East TX- and the deal was if Hick AND Udall were re-elected, we're packing.

SInce Udall didn't get re-elected, friends & family are wondering where that leaves us... with lickenpooper in, and a R state House & Senate it looked possible that Colorado could be saved...

if the House has fallen, then I may re-think that... unless the gerrymandering is un-done in 2021, the state will be fully Californicated... not sure I want to wait that long, I'd rather pull my salary from CO taxes and help the economic collapse come sooner.

Unless you blow that salary on weed I don't think they care.

[Ronin13]

I shake my head because there are people who somehow believe that John Hickenlooper is a moderate, and there are people who seem to think that voting for Matthew Hess would bring them the Change they Hoped for. Good luck with that.

I'm just glad it is over with. I want to buy standard capacity magazines again and have them shipped to my house. I want to meet some fine board member in a parking lot at Cabelas and buy a gun. I want to do all these things because two years ago they were both legal and now that they are illegal, not a damn thing has happened to make any victim safer from the crimes that were committed against them. Just my rights being infringed so some dumb ass can FEEL better. Sign it Hick, because you can

On the first part, voting for anyone who doesn't at least get 20% of the vote- seriously, Mike Rosen said it today, once a 3rd party candidate can get 20% of the vote, it's really not going to do anything. I've said it over and over again today, when your presidential candidate (looking at everyone that voted for Gary Johnson) gets .99% of the vote, and your gubernatorial candidate get's 1.8%, that's not really doing anything. That's like going to a football game with a baseball and saying "to hell with this, two of us are going to play baseball, the other 20 of you can do what you want." What did that accomplish? The words "Jack" and "Shit" come to mind.

Point two- Again, you put it so well! I can't agree more. What did these two gun control bills do to make the fine people of Colorado safer? Do they really think that the next mass-shooter that decides they want to murder folks here in CO is going to say "well, damn, I can't legally purchase these 30/50 round magazines here, I guess I'll just not go batshit crazy today." I worry that there are some (even running our state) who really are that incredibly stupid.

Seeing as how you are clearly pissed at anyone who may have, in your mind, cost Beauprez the election by voting 3rd party AND you have the power to ban people...I am going to attempt to tread lightly in my response.

You do a couple of things in your post that are bothersome...you attempt to make anyone that disagrees with your post as unintelligent which is page 1 column 1 out of the Democrat playbook. You also insinuate that 3rd party voters are lazy because they support a 3rd party candidate as well as accusing them of not working towards change inside the Republican party. I have to disagree on both counts because you cast a wide net with those two points and they are almost completely inaccurate when it comes to any 3rd party supporter that I've ever met.

The lazy, utopian type people you speak of are the occupy wall street people. Jobless, helpless and anarchist. 3rd party supporters that I've come across are thoughtful, intelligent, generous people who want nothing but the best for this country. You may be upset with the amount of votes that Hess, Hempy, Dunafon and Fiorino recieved...but what I see when I look at the polls is 85,578 people (as it stands currently) in this state who had the courage to stand up and say "Hickenlooper or Beauprez...this isn't good enough for us". If you really want to be pissed at someone today, Beauprez is the man you should be pissed at. If Beauprez ran a campaign instead of (I think it was Jer that said this) "I'm not him (Hick), so vote for me!" then he could have earned some of those 85,000+ votes. He didn't, and that's why he lost.

In short, agree to disagree

Had it been one candidate that garnered 85,000+ votes, I'd say that's pretty impressive. But spreading it out among several candidates that had not even the slightest chance of election, that does nothing. See my above sports analogy. Basically, since we can safely assume you weren't in Hickenlooper's camp (otherwise you would have directly voted for him), you basically helped by proxy to get him reelected. Congrats. How does that feel? I see the whole vote for the guy who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell as the same as not voting in that race. Protest or whatever when it comes to the polls, but like was said ad nauseum in 2012, elections have consequences. Since you and the people that voted for Dunafon or Hess deemed it unimportant to get Hick out, you must reap what has been sowed. I didn't like Beauprez, but I sure liked him more than Hickenlooper, and I found that getting rid of Hickenlooper was priority #1, then we can work on the other stuff. You don't like the idea of changing the republican party from within? How's your alternative working out for you? Again, when a 3rd party candidate can get 20% of the vote, I'll continue to work my ass off in the ways I can to try and sway the Republican party towards a better and more meaningful direction.

The common goal was supposed to be the elimination of Hickenlooper, but apparently the libs, greens and others felt their candidates needed votes to "send the message". Well, we heard your message and it was "I want Hickenlooper for four more years". Pat yourselves on the back gentlemen, you got what you wanted.

Yeah, this... mine was way more long winded.

Ugh, now that that's out of the way, my conundrum comes in. In this case, a runoff, like in Louisiana, might have helped to get Bob in. But what if the tables had been turned and Beauprez won 48% to 47.5%? If the law were like that of LA and the candidate would have to get 50% or better, what would happen in a runoff if he lost? He already won the first one, but due to the runoff rules he loses. That's a pretty hefty risk and why I guess I really can't get behind an idea of a runoff. Although I do think that if all the folks who voted for candidates 3, 4, and 5 were only allowed to vote for 1 or 2, the majority would hopefully go for our guy... except for those that just pout and stay home.

[Great-Kazoo]

Well that could be it... I'm totally on the fence, family wants me to move to East TX- and the deal was if Hick AND Udall were re-elected, we're packing.

SInce Udall didn't get re-elected, friends & family are wondering where that leaves us... with lickenpooper in, and a R state House & Senate it looked possible that Colorado could be saved...

if the House has fallen, then I may re-think that... unless the gerrymandering is un-done in 2021, the state will be fully Californicated... not sure I want to wait that long, I'd rather pull my salary from CO taxes and help the economic collapse come sooner.

Texas? please TX is lost only they don't know it yet. Illegals en-mass and entitlement squads already took Huston. Austin, well that's been gone. Big D and Ft Worth, as the urban areas reproduces, more D voters are spawned on par with Muslims.

There's Utah, Idaho, ND, SD, OK and wyo. Both western & eastern migration will eventually suffocate those still standing, OR on their rascal. WA turned in to another flaming ball of progressives , from the CA people wanting a better lifestyle. We've seen it happen here.

[68Charger]

Texas? please TX is lost only they don't know it yet. Illegals en-mass and entitlement squads already took Huston. Austin, well that's been gone. Big D and Ft Worth, as the urban areas reproduces, more D voters are spawned on par with Muslims.

There's Utah, Idaho, ND, SD, OK and wyo. Both western & eastern migration will eventually suffocate those still standing, OR on their rascal. WA turned in to another flaming ball of progressives , from the CA people wanting a better lifestyle. We've seen it happen here.

Look at the election results for TX... Abortion Barbie got her ass handed to her... wasn't even close, even with Abbot saying he would secure the border, he still got 44% of of Hispanic vote, and overall won with A (DRUM ROLL) 20% margin!

The good people of TX (the D's in Austin can suck it) need people who have seen this run, and make it loud and public what game is afoot...
and IMHO, if TX goes blue, there not be any safe place in the country anyway.

I'm aware they don't give a rat's ass about my income (taxes on it), but at least I won't have to cringe watching my hard earned $$ going to those lying, thieving bastards!

Enough people that earn more than the median income do that, and you can slowly watch the economy of CO fall apart.
Besides, I have to do what I need to do to protect my family... from the (D)ombie apocalypse

Give me a compelling reason to stick it out here- I already work from my home, my employer may actually prefer me in TX, closer to a network Lab we have on the East side of Dallas... just not going to be popular with individuals I work with in COS...

I'm a network engineer, not much call for that kind of tech in most of the states you mentioned... I've already done AZ, don't care to again...

If Alaska opened new oil fields and had a tech boom, I could make a run there... (graduated from HS in Anchorage), but it wouldn't be popular with my family... and right now their economy is tanked with very limited oil flow...


I'm fine with going to TX and being a classic redneck a-hole that makes the state offensive to Libs moving in... I'll take trips to Lib strongholds like Austin and Houston to visit Liberal hangouts and offend them repeatedly, letting them know they're not welcome there...

I've already got Horses, cowboy boots, a black Stetson, and stature to go with it... I'll just start smoking cigars and punching Libs in the face.

[Great-Kazoo]

Look at the election results for TX... Abortion Barbie got her ass handed to her... wasn't even close, even with Abbot saying he would secure the border, he still got 44% of of Hispanic vote, and overall won with A (DRUM ROLL) 20% margin!

The good people of TX (the D's in Austin can suck it) need people who have seen this run, and make it loud and public what game is afoot...
and IMHO, if TX goes blue, there not be any safe place in the country anyway.

I'm aware they don't give a rat's ass about my income (taxes on it), but at least I won't have to cringe watching my hard earned $$ going to those lying, thieving bastards!

Enough people that earn more than the median income do that, and you can slowly watch the economy of CO fall apart.
Besides, I have to do what I need to do to protect my family... from the (D)ombie apocalypse

Give me a compelling reason to stick it out here- I already work from my home, my employer may actually prefer me in TX, closer to a network Lab we have on the East side of Dallas... just not going to be popular with individuals I work with in COS...

I'm a network engineer, not much call for that kind of tech in most of the states you mentioned... I've already done AZ, don't care to again...

If Alaska opened new oil fields and had a tech boom, I could make a run there... (graduated from HS in Anchorage), but it wouldn't be popular with my family... and right now their economy is tanked with very limited oil flow...


I'm fine with going to TX and being a classic redneck a-hole that makes the state offensive to Libs moving in... I'll take trips to Lib strongholds like Austin and Houston to visit Liberal hangouts and offend them repeatedly, letting them know they're not welcome there...

I've already got Horses, cowboy boots, a black Stetson, and stature to go with it... I'll just start smoking cigars and punching Libs in the face.

Absolutely no reason to stay.

HOWEVER IF, AND A BIG IF. Obama does an amnesty for Illegals. Tejas is poised to be taken over by the same mentality who masterminded the D take over of CO. It's a major blip on their radar.

Most Black and Hispanic traditional families, lean R. A lot of hispanics around here, and there's a lot (SURPRISE) do not want amnesty.
Unfortunately no one has a crystal ball able to predict the future of politics. You keep the Soros, Stryker, Polis, Gill, bloomberg money circulating, sooner or later it will pay off.

[Mtn.man]

libs will find away to cheat, steal, and corrupt.

[OneGuy67]

The common goal was supposed to be the elimination of Hickenlooper, but apparently the libs, greens and others felt their candidates needed votes to "send the message". Well, we heard your message and it was "I want Hickenlooper for four more years". Pat yourselves on the back gentlemen, you got what you wanted.

[Great-Kazoo]

The common goal was supposed to be the elimination of Hickenlooper, but apparently the libs, greens and others felt their candidates needed votes to "send the message". Well, we heard your message and it was "I want Hickenlooper for four more years". Pat yourselves on the back gentlemen, you got what you wanted.

They can't, too busy rollin joints.

[Brian]

After reading all the feedback, I have to say I'm more interested in how realistic a two step process would be. Vote your ideals and heart the first time around, let the percentages show where people land. I can certainly understand how some might want to do that, no matter how unrealistic their chances. But then the small percentages drop away and it comes down to a 1 on 1 match up, either at the ballot, or in a ultimate fighting deathmatch. I don't know that it's ever going to be realistic, but it does seem like it might solve both problems. If you did a first and second choice, people could certainly decide not to register a 2nd choice and stand on morals, but I'd have to believe that many independents I know would just like to have their voice heard before voting for one of the two parties.

[Great-Kazoo]

After reading all the feedback, I have to say I'm more interested in how realistic a two step process would be. Vote your ideals and heart the first time around, let the percentages show where people land. I can certainly understand how some might want to do that, no matter how unrealistic their chances. But then the small percentages drop away and it comes down to a 1 on 1 match up, either at the ballot, or in a ultimate fighting deathmatch. I don't know that it's ever going to be realistic, but it does seem like it might solve both problems. If you did a first and second choice, people could certainly decide not to register a 2nd choice and stand on morals, but I'd have to believe that many independents I know would just like to have their voice heard before voting for one of the two parties.

They do a run off in LA if the candidates get 48 -50%? each.. Steel Cage grudge match, NO RULES, NO BELL. 1 WINNER, 1 LOSER.



I'm fighting WHO ?