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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Unfortunately, the Rs have been speaking much more about "fixing" OCare than they have repealing it.
    I suspect the same will happen with immigration. Obama will do something huge/drastic in regards to open immigration and the Rs will later scale it back, but not repeal it.
    The Rs figure the citizens will like them for pulling back on the reigns.
    I don't see any way the Rs are going to give up the governmental power that is inherent to OCare - once they are in charge of it.
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    Is the election over yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Is the election over yet?
    Thought it was. Time to move it.
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    So I'm really struggling to find good information here. Election night/morning it said the Republicans definitely took the state Senate and it was possible they might take the house too. Now the house is definitely still democratic, and it's down to one seat and a couple hundred seats in adams county, that won't be finished counting for a couple more days. Is that really where we stand or am I reading this wrong...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    So I'm really struggling to find good information here. Election night/morning it said the Republicans definitely took the state Senate and it was possible they might take the house too. Now the house is definitely still democratic, and it's down to one seat and a couple hundred seats in adams county, that won't be finished counting for a couple more days. Is that really where we stand or am I reading this wrong...?
    I can't find anything either. Probably easier to keep the people in the dark anyways, they'll forget about it in a few days and get on with their lives. It's the way Dems operate. The longer a recount or count goes, the more Dem votes magically appear.

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    9news just posted that the Republicans conceded that Dems keep the house. Senate still being counted.

    http://www.9news.com/story/news/poli...edes/18661197/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Tar & feathers. Even though thenaysayers say not possible. I guess being in a staunchly conservative state like CA, gives one vision. Of what's to come . RECALLS, it's what's for Ballot.
    Actually it does. I have seen a Republican party tone-deafly thump it's chest and "stick to its guns" straight into irrelevancy. Demographics in CA shifted over the past 30 years but the Republicans did not tailor their message to the new trends, and now Republicans are effectively meaningless in the legislative process. I guess it's better to stick to a pure ideology rather than win, right? Just like the election-spoiling Libertarians?

    Recalls? Coloradans just had their chance to oust Hickenlooper and failed. John Morse's seat got filled by one of Bloomberg's anti-gun staffers for crying out loud. I see that recall worked out super well. Maybe more effort should be put into developing better candidates that will win given the local environment.

    I would also add something about getting better R turnout but the whole mail in ballot thing is really vexing. Here in CA mail-in ballots are rejected at an unacceptably high rate. If the same is true in CO maybe strategies to rectify that or work around it should be developed, like dropping them off in person, or getting a printout of DMV signature to ensure the one on your ballot will match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    Actually it does. I have seen a Republican party tone-deafly thump it's chest and "stick to its guns" straight into irrelevancy. Demographics in CA shifted over the past 30 years but the Republicans did not tailor their message to the new trends, and now Republicans are effectively meaningless in the legislative process. I guess it's better to stick to a pure ideology rather than win, right? Just like the election-spoiling Libertarians?

    Recalls? Coloradans just had their chance to oust Hickenlooper and failed. John Morse's seat got filled by one of Bloomberg's anti-gun staffers for crying out loud. I see that recall worked out super well. Maybe more effort should be put into developing better candidates that will win given the local environment.

    I would also add something about getting better R turnout but the whole mail in ballot thing is really vexing. Here in CA mail-in ballots are rejected at an unacceptably high rate. If the same is true in CO maybe strategies to rectify that or work around it should be developed, like dropping them off in person, or getting a printout of DMV signature to ensure the one on your ballot will match.
    NEW TRENDS IN CA? Like Amnesty for illegals, medicaid, anchor babies, higher taxes, ban on lead ammo, ASSAULT weapon ban NO CCW OR open carry,10 day wait before bringing home a gun. CADOJ APPROVED FIREARMS. . YEAH THAT'S TAILORING A MESSAGE. TO LIBERALS.

    You sound like the typical west or east coaster who moved to CO for a better lifestyle. PROVIDING we changes our laws to meet your way of life in the place you moved from. Should we hold hands embracing our ILLEGAL Brothers and Sisters in the name of Diversity.

    WELL if you were knowledgeable about Morse's constituency . Even booted out the people still can vote in the general election cyc;le. Morse's area has a vast D voting block than R's. The recall election was considered by the Left and major R's to be a joke, no one EXCEPT gun owners took seriously. The Gun owner turned out en mass to kick his kiester to the pavement. The mid-term had everyone turn out ,getting that predominant D district the ability to vote another D to office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    NEW TRENDS IN CA? Like Amnesty for illegals, medicaid, anchor babies, higher taxes, ban on lead ammo, ASSAULT weapon ban NO CCW OR open carry,10 day wait before bringing home a gun. CADOJ APPROVED FIREARMS. . YEAH THAT'S TAILORING A MESSAGE. TO LIBERALS.

    You sound like the typical west or east coaster who moved to CO for a better lifestyle. PROVIDING we changes our laws to meet your way of life in the place you moved from. Should we hold hands embracing our ILLEGAL Brothers and Sisters in the name of Diversity.
    Spare me the condescension; I am not in favor of any of those policies. I'm just pointing out that in a Republican wave election, CO did not get much redder, especially from a gun rights point of view. My suggestion, from someone who has seen where this road leads, is to figure out why or learn to enjoy CA-style BS, all of what you listed above and more. If you'd rather piss on the messenger because I'm not licking your ***, that's your perogative. Engaging in unrealistic groupthink does not further the cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Even booted out the people still can vote in the general election cyc;le. Morse's area has a vast D voting block than R's. The recall election was considered by the Left and major R's to be a joke, no one EXCEPT gun owners took seriously. The Gun owner turned out en mass to kick his kiester to the pavement. The mid-term had everyone turn out ,getting that predominant D district the ability to vote another D to office.
    So are you in favor of recalls or aren't you? Can't have it both ways... BTW what do you think is going to happen in the next presidental election, when turnout is traditionally higher for Dems? How are your recall candidates going to fare then?
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