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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    You should be running through the streets naked and drunk with happiness. Jesus H Christ...
    Doing such a thing does not conform to my conservative nature. A bit too self indulgent, free-spirited and, well, liberal. Bitching about small things... well that fits squarely with my normal habits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    If the State House flops to the "R"s, we just may see the Magazine Limit and UBC repeal bills hit the Governors desk. Could still be interesting...
    You think Hickenlooper would sign if it even made it to his desk?

    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    Bitching is totally justified IMHO. Hickenlooper is an absolute abomination and complete fuckwitt.
    He admitted to signing bills that he did not read. He admitted to not listening to the sheriffs he let Dunlap slide.
    We have to deal with his retardedness again. He will continue to make decisions that are idiotic and effect our daily lives.
    It's insane that republicans had great success in the state and nationally, yet the worst democrat governor on the planet retained his reign.
    This points more to the GOP as a whole and it's shortcomings then Hickenlooper IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post

    Again, someone explain why voting for a candidate that garners 1.1-1.8% of the vote is doing anything but tossing your ballet in the garbage? Yeah, that's really fucking changing things there. Brace yourselves, here come the "We heard this same song and dance with Romney/Obama in '12, anything to get rid of Obama." Yeah, and you 3rd party folks didn't listen that time either. I won't be the one to harp and whine on the 3rd party people without a viable solution- so here it is: if your 3rd party cannot amount to more than 3% of the vote (that's giving them a lot more than what we've seen, Gary Johnson got .9%) then what about trying to change one of the parties... enough voices will eventually become a catalyst for change, it happened with the progressive movement within the Democrat party, and it looked like it was going somewhere with the Tea Party movement within the Republican party (see the 2010 shakeup). Why not instead of protest and huff and go "I'm never voting for those meanie face republicans again!" rise up and say "Let's change this party. It looks too much like the Democrat party, we need to make it better!" So many are willing to jump ship and try out a different boat, but that different boat is way too small and too leaky to make the voyage. Why not fix the ship you were on instead? I would apply this same logic to Colorado, but I repeat my previous fear that I think this is going to be a fairly blue state for quite some time... Considering Boulder and Denver are doing nothing but expanding.
    I'll ignore and avoid the ad hominems, but honestly, what do you think Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are doing? They are invoking change from within the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    If the State House flops to the "R"s, we just may see the Magazine Limit and UBC repeal bills hit the Governors desk. Could still be interesting...
    Hick will not sign them and lie about wanting to sign them and then blame his staffer for not signing them because he promised his third cousin that he would not sign them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    I am absolutely shocked at the amount of bitching I am reading on here. The national races literally couldn't have went any better for the Republicans. Obama is about ready to ruin any chance the Democrats have in 2016 by waving his pen around and executive action-ing himself and democrats into oblivion. Hickenlooper won by the smallest of margins against a candidate that has already ran and lost the governors race to arguably a worse democrat than Hick is (Ritter). The State Senate went your way, the state House looks like it's going to swing your way too (possibly). Hick isn't going to be able to do anything for the next four years if that's the case. All of the propositions everybody wanted voted down were defeated...

    Seriously, what the fuck are all of you bitching about? You should be running through the streets naked and drunk with happiness. Jesus H Christ...
    Yay for the Senate flip, yay for House plus up but in the end all politics are local. I wanted Hickenlooper crushed. I wanted his political career to end so he can go back to bar-tending. I wanted him humiliated for his lack of moral spine and his lack of professional responsibility. I'm happy Maryland picked an R Gov, I'm happy NC kicked out Hagen. It's good to see nation wide but I live in Colorado and for me personally, all the other national races amount only so much interest to me. I wanted CO to become red and it's not. It doesn't matter about Sec State, Treasurer, Attorney General. It was Hickenlooper that mattered and we came up short. The Ds will see this is a win even with Gardner winning and they are right.
    Next time around we will have to knuckle down and try even harder but it will be harder and harder and harder if we can't turn the governor mansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    I am absolutely shocked at the amount of bitching I am reading on here. The national races literally couldn't have went any better for the Republicans. Obama is about ready to ruin any chance the Democrats have in 2016 by waving his pen around and executive action-ing himself and democrats into oblivion. Hickenlooper won by the smallest of margins against a candidate that has already ran and lost the governors race to arguably a worse democrat than Hick is (Ritter). The State Senate went your way, the state House looks like it's going to swing your way too (possibly). Hick isn't going to be able to do anything for the next four years if that's the case. All of the propositions everybody wanted voted down were defeated...

    Seriously, what the fuck are all of you bitching about? You should be running through the streets naked and drunk with happiness. Jesus H Christ...
    Hick may have his hands tied IF the general assembly goes R. However, they'll be very hard pressed to pass much onto his desk as well. We've seen how he works and it'll be damn near a deadlock for anything that doesn't align with Hick's agenda.
    And yes, I'm happy as hell that everywhere else is looking good...
    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I'll ignore and avoid the ad hominems, but honestly, what d you think Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are doing? They are invoking change from within the party.
    Exactly my point. I love what Paul and Cruz are doing. I also love that they're giving the RINOs a run for their money and making them all uncomfortable... Shake in those boots McCain, Graham and McConnell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    It doesn't matter about Sec State, Treasurer, Attorney General. It was Hickenlooper that mattered and we came up short.
    Secretary of State matters a hell of a lot. He and the county clerks run elections.

    To steal an election, you don't need to control the ballots, just who counts them.

    How do you think yesterday would have gone with a Dem SoS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    You think Hickenlooper would sign if it even made it to his desk?
    Not really. But it still keeps the issue in forefront, plus they could pass other pro-gun bills to package with it, like CCW rights expansion, which may force compromise on the worst parts of the exisiting bills.

    Who knows- All for nothing if the "D's" still keep the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    I am absolutely shocked at the amount of bitching I am reading on here. The national races literally couldn't have went any better for the Republicans. Obama is about ready to ruin any chance the Democrats have in 2016 by waving his pen around and executive action-ing himself and democrats into oblivion. Hickenlooper won by the smallest of margins against a candidate that has already ran and lost the governors race to arguably a worse democrat than Hick is (Ritter). The State Senate went your way, the state House looks like it's going to swing your way too (possibly). Hick isn't going to be able to do anything for the next four years if that's the case. All of the propositions everybody wanted voted down were defeated...

    Seriously, what the fuck are all of you bitching about? You should be running through the streets naked and drunk with happiness. Jesus H Christ...

    While i am not one to agree with you. In this case, while the .guv is still Hick. The wins overcome the loss. To take the offices you mentioned is Very Big. IMO it's the equivalent of Congress & senate being in R control with a Lamer duck president.

    I'll say it again. The numbers for Beauprex were way beyond what i thought they would have been. I thought / felt Hick would run away this election cycle. Not only didn't he. BUT this does send a message to him and other's

    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    I'm ecstatic over the victories, but arguably one of the worst governor's in my lifetime won a second term. So I can't bitch about it?
    Consider yourself / us lucky we don't have a Cuomo mentality for guv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Consider yourself / us lucky we don't have a Cuomo mentality for guv.
    Isn't a Bloomberg whipping boy just as bad?
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