INSANE: Ferguson “Activists” Deliver Pre-Riot Demands To Police

[KestrelBike]

Knew a guy who got into a scuffle at a house party in college. Someone threw a bottle, it broke against his jaw, and fragments sliced open his throat. Another fraction of an inch and he'd have bled out right there. He's still got a gruesome scar to show for it.

I knew a runner who was jogging down a country road, and some a-holes drove by and chucked an unopened [glass] snapple bottle at his back. It cracked a vertebrae or two.

[ZERO THEORY]

I knew a runner who was jogging down a country road, and some a-holes drove by and chucked an unopened [glass] snapple bottle at his back. It cracked a vertebrae or two.

How long did it take him to recover?

[ZERO THEORY]

These demands are not from the local senior center. This SHIT is from a bunch of FSA wanna be thugs who prefer to loot and burn their own neighborhood, in the name of JUSTICE. The parents of Saint Swisher demanded the officer who shot their young adult be sent to prison. Never mind a trial first. PRISON if their demand was not met, They would or could not be responsible for any violence that occurred So please do not say their ROE are not out of line with any normal expectation..
Had the parents and other not Threatened VIOLENCE / RIOTS then maybe review the demands and get back to them.
While i am a staunch supporter of the 1st amendment , threatening violence is not nor does not give them 1st amendment protection.

You feel that way go walk lock step with the folks of Ferguson.

Ya... Throwing a bottle justifies MRAPS, pointing guns at people and possibly shooting people. You would think cops were made of glass themselves, so weak and fragile. You would think that they don't expect to lay down their lives for the communites they protect. No they expect to be in 'CHARGE!!' Respect my ATHORITAAAA. When everybody is 'they' and 'them' the community is the enemy. As long as you comply, law and order are maintained. The British thought this at one time. If you are not willing to be part of the community and in fact be at risk; you should get another job.

A lot of my family are cops (real cops), many of them are even in Missouri (where I grew up) dealing with this. This is personal for me. I worry about them but have also seen how over reaction from those with a badge has caused the problem instead of de-escalting as it should be. Cops need to be Cops again and not think of this as a war zone.... Unless they make it one. Somebody breaks a window, arrest them. Don't beat the hell out of'em and wonder why the rest of the people fight back.

We will see who acts like a thug when the announcement comes out. I hope both sides keep their cool.

How about you let me bust you in the melon with a Coke bottle? Let's see how weak and fragile you are. Better yet, pick up a bottle and threaten your local cop with it. See if that gets a gun pointed in your general direction. Course, you having all sorts of family members in law enforcement makes you an expert and all.

When was the last time one of your real cop relatives said they "expect" to lay down their lives for the community? My guess is never. That's one of the most asinine things you've ever said.

So what's next? The guys that plan the next bank robbery get to dictate their terms to the police? Does the next guy who gets drunk and beats his wife into a coma get to dictate how the cops handle the call? Surely the next child molester can make demands of the cops?

The police are only obligated to act within the law. Period. They are not obligated to concede to these demands nor should they. Their response should be, as long as everyone behaves themselves and assembles peaceably, you won't have anything to worry about from the PD. Break the law and we'll do what it takes to arrest your dumbass.

[Great-Kazoo]

Figure you'd be honest enough to include the link i posted. You want to eat popcorn and watch, be honest about it. Not pick and choose your quotes.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...9edc3c99c.html

[ZERO THEORY]

Figure you'd be honest enough to include the link i posted. You want to eat popcorn and watch, be honest about it. Not pick and choose your quotes.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...9edc3c99c.html

I'm just laughing at the oncoming shitstorm. I'm not picking or choosing anything, guy.

[TFOGGER]

The police are under obligation to preserve the peace of the community as a whole, not pander to the demands of those anticipating the commission of crimes in the name of protest. Anyone who has ever been HIT with a thrown bottle (11 stitches, thank you very much) would not call that a "minor issue", they would call it "assault with a deadly weapon". I support the right of the people of Ferguson to assemble and protest, but issuing a list of demands that amount to telling the police to sit on their hands while they burn the fucking city to the ground is ridiculous. If they want to riot, burn and loot, they should expect to be treated as rioters, arsonists, and looters. Arson, BTW, is one of only a few crimes that justify the use of deadly force in Colorado in defense of another(dunno about MO).

[Bailey Guns]

Anyone who has ever been HIT with a thrown bottle (11 stitches, thank you very much) would not call that a "minor issue", they would call it "assault with a deadly weapon".

Exactly. Happened to me in 95(?) during a Phish concert riot in Morrison. I was wearing a helmet and it still rung my bell but good. If you've never experienced it, trust me...you don't want to. Of course, pissing and moaning about how much the police suck from the safety of your keyboard is pretty harrowing, too.

[hurley842002]

The police are under obligation to preserve the peace of the community as a whole, not pander to the demands of those anticipating the commission of crimes in the name of protest. Anyone who has ever been HIT with a thrown bottle (11 stitches, thank you very much) would not call that a "minor issue", they would call it "assault with a deadly weapon". I support the right of the people of Ferguson to assemble and protest, but issuing a list of demands that amount to telling the police to sit on their hands while they burn the fucking city to the ground is ridiculous. If they want to riot, burn and loot, they should expect to be treated as rioters, arsonists, and looters. Arson, BTW, is one of only a few crimes that justify the use of deadly force in Colorado in defense of another(dunno about MO).

Exactly. Happened to me in 95(?) during a Phish concert riot in Morrison. I was wearing a helmet and it still rung my bell but good. If you've never experienced it, trust me...you don't want to. Of course, pissing and moaning about how much the police suck from the safety of your keyboard is pretty harrowing, too.

Win! Most folks would be surprised how much you are still able to feel underneath a riot helmet...

[Great-Kazoo]

I think the people of Ferguson who are not of the thug nature will agree with me in that the protesters have "vented" enough.

This will be more of a lynch mob, hell bent on destruction, than a "protest". They do have every right to protest. They do not have the right to hurt others nor destroy property. I personally do not advocate tying LE's hands with any kind of ROE's.

You're only 20 posts new but obviously understand what's going on in Ferguson already.

The police are under obligation to preserve the peace of the community as a whole, not pander to the demands of those anticipating the commission of crimes in the name of protest. Anyone who has ever been HIT with a thrown bottle (11 stitches, thank you very much) would not call that a "minor issue", they would call it "assault with a deadly weapon". I support the right of the people of Ferguson to assemble and protest, but issuing a list of demands that amount to telling the police to sit on their hands while they burn the fucking city to the ground is ridiculous. If they want to riot, burn and loot, they should expect to be treated as rioters, arsonists, and looters. Arson, BTW, is one of only a few crimes that justify the use of deadly force in Colorado in defense of another(dunno about MO).

I believe or (IMO) the fine people of ferguson had already demonstrated their willingness to assemble and act in a peaceful manner.

Their list of demands show how much they are Once Again willing to Obey the law. On their terms and their version of peace. FUCK THEM. Strong letter to follow

[cstone]

Bring out the scoops!

Do you know the secret about Soylent Green?

Seriously, they already have ground rules. We call them laws and ordinances. Most jurisdictions require permits before any road closures or large gatherings to ensure proper public safety like porta-johns and clean up is taken care of afterwards. If people in Ferguson would like to demonstrate, they can do so within the law or practice civil disobedience. If they go the civil disobedience route, they can have attorneys standing by and they can make bail like anyone else if the court sets bail. If people become violent, they can expect the response to be force up to the level necessary to keep the peace and end the violence.

Is this new to anyone?