INSANE: Ferguson “Activists” Deliver Pre-Riot Demands To Police

[Irving]

Let me clarify. I haven't argued that bottles are no big deal.

[hurley842002]

Let me clarify. I haven't argued that bottles are no big deal.

I didn't take your post that way, but Hound doesn't seem to think having bottles thrown at you is any big deal. If anyone, especially a large mob of folks, begins throwing bottles at me or my family, I'm using whatever level of force is necessary to stop the threat...

[Big John]

ROE #15 says throwing water bottles is "minor".

It will be interesting (more likely disgusting) to see how the press handles this mess on Monday.

[yz9890]

ROE #15 says throwing water bottles is "minor".

I like that one also. Force a cop to try to identify what an object is flying towards his head so he can know how to respond. They're probably mostly talking about after the fact but even then, that's ridiculous.

I imagine a roll or toilet paper and a chunk of cement look a lot alike in the dark and in the smoke.


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[ZERO THEORY]

Damn, Bailey ethered Hound on that one.

[Hound]

Folks... I am assuming that you guys can read, it is not apparent from many of the responses. Everybody has been going to a glass bottle and yet the (as has been pointed out by a mod) requests stated a plastic bottle. I never mentioned glass in any statement, did not think I needed to. It is apparent that this is a sounding room of Barney Fifes with a "Whaooo is me", 'they' are all bad people, "Ya gotta nip it in the bud"...Thin blue line of solidarity. Many of your statements on here show why people should be afraid of the cops instead supporting them. It makes it harder for the good cops out there that deserve the communities support. This 'Brown' incident is not an isolated occurrence, it is just the one with the spot light for now. The fear you show of a job you obviously picked shows you picked poorly. I hope you find something you are better suited for. Protecting the community does not seem a natural fit. Instead of trying to understand the reasons people are upset, you want to meet one expected wrong with a worse "shock and awe" wrong. For the record... a glass bottle is not equivalent to a gun even if both can do harm. By that reasoning ANYTHING in the hands of a non-cop gives a cop the right to beat up or even shoot somebody and that is not 'OK'. I don't agree with this idea "If your not Cop you'er little people". As previously stated, if somebody is actually doing something wrong..... arrest them. Don't beat them up and think you are any better than those you expect to be "thugs" or wonder why the rest of the already agitated crowd retaliates. Nowhere does it state in their request that they condone a 'riot' or 'looting'. It is a tense environment and they don't want a minor infraction to turn into the original police response. They arrested a woman for simply falling down for Christ's sake!!! Cops should be safe but instead of the Barney approach (that failed horribly the first time) this is trying to have the Andy Griffith approach of de-escalation. That is not a bad thing.

Now....Let the Barney's come out with their BS.........

[Bailey Guns]

Folks... I am assuming that you guys can read, it is not apparent from many of the responses. Everybody has been going to a glass bottle and yet the (as has been pointed out by a mod) requests stated a plastic bottle. I never mentioned glass in any statement, did not think I needed to.

You're BS just gets better and better. The best way to make yourself look like a condescending ass, which you have a real talent for doing, is to attempt to correct someone with incorrect information.

In the first place, these were not "requests". On the document in the OP it clearly states they are "Proposed Rules of Engagement". And it doesn't state how the "peaceful protesters" are required to conduct themselves. The demands are strictly to be adhered to on the part of the police. Fuck that. Secondly, the proposed RoEs state, "water bottles". Not glass, not plastic. Water bottles. Could be made of anything. Could be empty or full. It doesn't specify. So before you accuse others of not being able to read you might wanna check your comprehension skills as well. Because from what I can tell they're sorely lacking.

It is apparent that this is a sounding room of Barney Fifes with a "Whaooo is me", 'they' are all bad people, "Ya gotta nip it in the bud"...Thin blue line of solidarity. Many of your statements on here show why people should be afraid of the cops instead supporting them. It makes it harder for the good cops out there that deserve the communities support.

Wow. Go figure. An internet tough guy who apparently has never had the stones to face real violence on the street. You've got a lot of nerve calling the current and former LE officers on this forum (who've responded in this thread) "Barney Fife's". This is exactly the type of idiotic statement that gets you flamed over and over. Face it. Regardless of how many relatives you have in law enforcement you know absolutely nothing about what it takes to do the job in a world full of know-it-all people like you. People with your attitude are the type of people that makes cops have an "us vs them" attitude. It's not the thugs like Michael Brown. It's the idiots who should know better. At least Barney Fife had the courage to put the badge on...something you obviously don't have.

This 'Brown' incident is not an isolated occurrence, it is just the one with the spot light for now.

That's right. It happens over and over in communities where certain groups think they're above the law and entitled to certain privileges and respect based solely on race. They think that because there's always a pussy somewhere willing to say a set of demands like this is "reasonable".

The fear you show of a job you obviously picked shows you picked poorly. I hope you find something you are better suited for. Protecting the community does not seem a natural fit. Instead of trying to understand the reasons people are upset, you want to meet one expected wrong with a worse "shock and awe" wrong.

Your constant references to fear seem to be projection more than anything else. First you call officers/former officers on the forum "Barney's" then you state there's some tremendous fear on the part of Joe Public towards police. Well that really doesn't make sense to me. Then again, most things you post here don't make sense. I haven't seen one LEO/former LEO here say the police should automatically respond with "shock and awe" or anything of the sort. Even I said they should ignore this list of demands and tell the community they have nothing to worry about if they want to peacefully demonstrate. Many people, including me, have said that the police response to law-breakers should be within the bounds of what the law allows. You're just making shit up now.

For the record... a glass bottle is not equivalent to a gun even if both can do harm.

Colorado statutes defining a deadly weapon are clear on this. You're wrong. As usual. Any item whether animate or inanimate, which is capable of inflicting death or SBI in the manner in which it's used can be a deadly weapon. Period.

By that reasoning ANYTHING in the hands of a non-cop gives a cop the right to beat up or even shoot somebody and that is not 'OK'.

Do you have any idea how stupid this statement is? Probably not.

I don't agree with this idea "If your not Cop you'er little people".

I'm guessing most all of this think this way. You're the only one that's brought up that sentiment without any sort of provocation other than several people are disagreeing with your nonsense.

As previously stated, if somebody is actually doing something wrong..... arrest them. Don't beat them up and think you are any better than those you expect to be "thugs" or wonder why the rest of the already agitated crowd retaliates.

Yeah...sounds familiar:

The police are only obligated to act within the law. Period. They are not obligated to concede to these demands nor should they. Their response should be, as long as everyone behaves themselves and assembles peaceably, you won't have anything to worry about from the PD. Break the law and we'll do what it takes to arrest your dumbass.

Nowhere does it state in their request that they condone a 'riot' or 'looting'. It is a tense environment and they don't want a minor infraction to turn into the original police response.

A minor infraction like a robbery and subsequent assault on a police officer where the robbery suspect attempted to disarm the officer? That sort of minor infraction?

They arrested a woman for simply falling down for Christ's sake!!! Cops should be safe but instead of the Barney approach (that failed horribly the first time) this is trying to have the Andy Griffith approach of de-escalation. That is not a bad thing.

It's not a bad thing as long as these protesters remain peaceful and understand they don't get to dictate police response.

Now....Let the Barney's come out with their BS.........

Yeah...you're just a real reasonable guy, aren't ya? You can take your "Barney" bullshit and shove it up your....pie hole. Takes a real tough guy to say shit like that behind a keyboard.

[Big John]

You're BS just gets better and better. The best way to make yourself look like a condescending ass, which you have a real talent for doing, is to attempt to correct someone with incorrect information.

In the first place, these were not "requests". On the document in the OP it clearly states they are "Proposed Rules of Engagement". And it doesn't state how the "peaceful protesters" are required to conduct themselves. The demands are strictly to be adhered to on the part of the police. Fuck that. Secondly, the proposed RoEs state, "water bottles". Not glass, not plastic. Water bottles. Could be made of anything. Could be empty or full. It doesn't specify. So before you accuse others of not being able to read you might wanna check your comprehension skills as well. Because from what I can tell they're sorely lacking.



Wow. Go figure. An internet tough guy who apparently has never had the stones to face real violence on the street. You've got a lot of nerve calling the current and former LE officers on this forum (who've responded in this thread) "Barney Fife's". This is exactly the type of idiotic statement that gets you flamed over and over. Face it. Regardless of how many relatives you have in law enforcement you know absolutely nothing about what it takes to do the job in a world full of know-it-all people like you. People with your attitude are the type of people that makes cops have an "us vs them" attitude. It's not the thugs like Michael Brown. It's the idiots who should know better. At least Barney Fife had the courage to put the badge on...something you obviously don't have.



That's right. It happens over and over in communities where certain groups think they're above the law and entitled to certain privileges and respect based solely on race. They think that because there's always a pussy somewhere willing to say a set of demands like this is "reasonable".



Your constant references to fear seem to be projection more than anything else. First you call officers/former officers on the forum "Barney's" then you state there's some tremendous fear on the part of Joe Public towards police. Well that really doesn't make sense to me. Then again, most things you post here don't make sense. I haven't seen one LEO/former LEO here say the police should automatically respond with "shock and awe" or anything of the sort. Even I said they should ignore this list of demands and tell the community they have nothing to worry about if they want to peacefully demonstrate. Many people, including me, have said that the police response to law-breakers should be within the bounds of what the law allows. You're just making shit up now.



Colorado statutes defining a deadly weapon are clear on this. You're wrong. As usual. Any item whether animate or inanimate, which is capable of inflicting death or SBI in the manner in which it's used can be a deadly weapon. Period.



Do you have any idea how stupid this statement is? Probably not.



I'm guessing most all of this think this way. You're the only one that's brought up that sentiment without any sort of provocation other than several people are disagreeing with your nonsense.



Yeah...sounds familiar:





A minor infraction like a robbery and subsequent assault on a police officer where the robbery suspect attempted to disarm the officer? That sort of minor infraction?



It's not a bad thing as long as these protesters remain peaceful and understand they don't get to dictate police response.



Yeah...you're just a real reasonable guy, aren't ya? You can take your "Barney" bullshit and shove it up your....pie hole. Takes a real tough guy to say shit like that behind a keyboard.

Very nice break down

[Great-Kazoo]

Very nice break down

He did a good job, as usual. BTW: nice meeting you today.

[Big John]

He did a good job, as usual. BTW: nice meeting you today.

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