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    I drove an M3 for a winter...once. After that, I bought a cheap winter beater to get around in during snow. Granted, it didn't have snow tires so I could have helped the case. I did have a 325i before the M3 and it had good all seasons and a big stereo in the trunk. It did good for the most part but I still prefer a 4x4. It just eliminates a lot of the stress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    Gotta back Hurley on this one. He's not suggesting that you (or he) can't get around in a RWD, but rather that it doesn't make sense to not give yourself better hardware.
    I can see that point, but for most of us here in CO we only need a snow ready vehicle a handful of days a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    Do you have OBA?
    On board air? Not in my Tacoma, it's bone stock with the exception of one size larger tires, and the "grey wire mod" that allows me to use the locker in 2wd. I had a Cherokee with OBA and every other mod under the sun (except front locker lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    This is a software problem not a hardware one. I guarantee you I could make it around in a RWD pickup with a 500+HP motor, 4 speed and street tires better than your average Texicanifornia transplant in a Subaru Forester because I was trained as a teenager how to drive on ice and snow.
    There's always someone that can conduct an air strike in a hot air balloon, that doesn't mean it's ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    On board air? Not in my Tacoma, it's bone stock with the exception of one size larger tires, and the "grey wire mod" that allows me to use the locker in 2wd. I had a Cherokee with OBA and every other mod under the sun (except front locker lol).
    Gotcha. So you planning on going electronic if you lock the front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    There's always someone that can conduct an air strike in a hot air balloon, that doesn't mean it's ideal.
    So the spouse should sell her 02 RWD silverado (purchased new) , with good truck (not car) tires for a FWD vehicle, to get around better in? She can handle that truck like a pro in snow.
    Her trick to not breaking traction, ease the gas pedal from a stop, let off the gas when turning, allow plenty of space from the vehicle ahead of her AND (even though it's an auto) know those other options on the gear selector are there for a reason. Auto or manual trans, knowing how to use your transmission for braking / slowing down is something few drivers have a clue on.

    If it's real bad we stay home or use the 4 x 4 and still drive the same. It's not how much better one vehicle is over the other in snow, they all stop the same if you need to HIT THE BRAKES, shitty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    So the spouse should sell her 02 RWD silverado (purchased new) , with good truck (not car) tires for a FWD vehicle, to get around better in? She can handle that truck like a pro in snow.
    Her trick to not breaking traction, ease the gas pedal from a stop, let off the gas when turning, allow plenty of space from the vehicle ahead of her AND (even though it's an auto) know those other options on the gear selector are there for a reason. Auto or manual trans, knowing how to use your transmission for braking / slowing down is something few drivers have a clue on.

    If it's real bad we stay home or use the 4 x 4 and still drive the same. It's not how much better one vehicle is over the other in snow, they all stop the same if you need to HIT THE BRAKES, shitty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    I drove an M3 for a winter...once. After that, I bought a cheap winter beater to get around in during snow. Granted, it didn't have snow tires so I could have helped the case. I did have a 325i before the M3 and it had good all seasons and a big stereo in the trunk. It did good for the most part but I still prefer a 4x4. It just eliminates a lot of the stress.
    I couldn't believe I saw a dude in a new(ish) one this morning.
    Oh no, dude. If you can afford an M3, you can afford a beater.

    That said, he was doing great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    Gotcha. So you planning on going electronic if you lock the front?
    I'm thinking electric, but it's hard to beat an ARB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    So the spouse should sell her 02 RWD silverado (purchased new) , with good truck (not car) tires for a FWD vehicle, to get around better in? She can handle that truck like a pro in snow.
    Her trick to not breaking traction, ease the gas pedal from a stop, let off the gas when turning, allow plenty of space from the vehicle ahead of her AND (even though it's an auto) know those other options on the gear selector are there for a reason. Auto or manual trans, knowing how to use your transmission for braking / slowing down is something few drivers have a clue on.

    If it's real bad we stay home or use the 4 x 4 and still drive the same. It's not how much better one vehicle is over the other in snow, they all stop the same if you need to HIT THE BRAKES, shitty.
    Not at all what I was saying, I was more less using that reference for the 500hp, 2wd super truck on street tires.

    I'm very familiar with engine braking, using your gears when it's slick (even in an auto), etc etc, but nobody is going to convince me, that with equally skilled and cautious drivers, that a 2wd is better than a 4wd in the slick stuff. Obviously when it comes to stopping it's a non issue.

    This feels like Dejavu, I'm sure we've discussed this here on the forum before lol.

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