F $%#$ ing thieves

[The Extractor]

or non paying GB bidders. I finally sold a 1911 I had on GB on June 6. He sends payment and FFL it comes to my PO one fri, per the online tracking, undeliverable. They send it back to Denver, they send it back,local then sends it back again this last sat. Get am e mail from the guy today

"received post back it has been opened in the back both money orders are gone ,the invoice and ffl are still in the envelope the top part of your address was torn and folded under they could,nt see your p.o.box number or your name I sent it in the pririty mail envelope with the clear front window the address was on another envelope inside it they closed the outer envelope up ,there's no way you could tell what was inside it, I'm going to post office tomorrow to see what I can do,I can't afford to pay again."

He is in FL. What to do now... Will they refund his $1100, or is he SOL?
Should I relist it? Dang Im mad.

[ryanek9freak]

I think he can file some sort of claim with the PO. If he can document the theft, the PO should at least replace his money order.

[HunterCO]

or non paying GB bidders. I finally sold a 1911 I had on GB on June 6. He sends payment and FFL it comes to my PO one fri, per the online tracking, undeliverable. They send it back to Denver, they send it back,local then sends it back again this last sat. Get am e mail from the guy today

"received post back it has been opened in the back both money orders are gone ,the invoice and ffl are still in the envelope the top part of your address was torn and folded under they could,nt see your p.o.box number or your name I sent it in the pririty mail envelope with the clear front window the address was on another envelope inside it they closed the outer envelope up ,there's no way you could tell what was inside it, I'm going to post office tomorrow to see what I can do,I can't afford to pay again."

He is in FL. What to do now... Will they refund his $1100, or is he SOL?
Should I relist it? Dang Im mad.

He sent a money order so he should be ok. If he really sent money orders he will get his money back that is the whole point of useing money orders. He could also be trying to scam you sounds kind of fishy to me.

[The Extractor]

the PO tracking showed what he said happened so I cant say that he didnt send it.

[VDW]

You're a little bit screwed. If he doesn't have the money to send another one, it usually takes the PO 3 months or so to pay out on a money order claim. He should be covered (eventually), assuming he bought a USPS MO. If you decide to let the transaction go and relist it, GB should refund your final value fee.

[The Extractor]

Great :-/

[sniper7]

file a claim with the PO. there should be a copy with the MO number on it. they can cancel those checks, refund the money and get the deal finished.

[ZOMBIEMASTER223]

Will they refund his $1100, or is he SOL?
Should I relist it? Dang Im mad.[/quote]

FIRST, THEFT OF THE MAIL OR ITS CONTENTS IS A FELONY

SECOND, THEFT OF MAIL OR CONTENTS BY POSTAL EMPLOYES IS 2 ADDITIONAL FELONYS

YOU SAY THERE WERE TWO MONEY ORDERS ? THATS DOUBLE THE FELONYS IF THATS THE CASE

THIRD IF THE MONEYORDERS ARE NOT RECIEVED BY THE INTENDED OWNER, (YOU) AND THEY ARE LOST OR STOLEN, THE POST OFFICE WILL
REPLACE THEM AFTER 30 DAYS (FRM THE DAY THEY ARE REPORTED)

FORTH, SOME STORE OWNER OR PLACE IS GOING TO BE OUT OF THE MONEY BECUASE IF THEY CASH THEM, THE FEDS WILL NOT REIMBURSE THEM AS THEY HAVE BEEN STOLEN, UNLESS YOUR DUDE DID NOT REPORT THEM, DID YOU CHECK WITH HIM TO FOLLOW UP ?

[The Extractor]

BUYER - wish I knew that this morning,already filled out claim papers they said they will trace them 8-08 thats 60 days after purchase date,I'll get the money back if they have not been cashed,they said it could take another month to get the money even if they have not been cashed,sounds like a real secure way to send money as long as you have plenty of time if something goes wrong. I'm very sorry about all this crap I have done a lot of transactions on GB AND Guns America and I have never had anything like this happen before. Robert

[battle_sight_zero]

I had that happen to me for an $800 dollar gun that I was buying in February. Darn money order disapeared in the postal system. They told me 60 days but it was refunded in two weeks. You sound like a cool seller, the guy I was dealing with thought I was full of it even with a feedback of 120 positive and no negatives until I emailed him a copy of the money order reciept. Anyways I got the money out of savings and paid the seller again. He gave me an excellent feedback and noted I showed proof that postal service lost my money, however he still got his money about 10 days after the auction. With this in mind I would not let the buyer off so easy, he should have a reciept and that should be easy to be scanned into a JPEG image. If says he does not have a scanner let him know the libray has them. Right now there are to many broke clowns out there on cyber land, and a 1000 dollar GB auction is nothing to take lightly.