Keystone Pipeline

[Zundfolge]

Surprise!!! Didn't make it out of the Senate.

Senate Democrats reject bill to build oil pipeline

It failed by 1 vote ... of our two senators Bennett voted FOR it, and Udall (in what I believe is his final FUCK YOU to the people of Colorado) voted AGAINST.

Markey boy needs to move back to AZ when he leaves DC.

[hurley842002]

It failed by 1 vote ... of our two senators Bennett voted FOR it, and Udall (in what I believe is his final FUCK YOU to the people of Colorado) voted AGAINST.

Markey boy needs to move back to AZ when he leaves DC.

I actually enjoy AZ, maybe he can move back east.

[Zundfolge]

I actually enjoy AZ, maybe he can move back east.

I don't care where he goes as long as its away.

[BushMasterBoy]

Is this the railroad/trucking lobby that is defeating this?

[XC700116]

Is this the railroad/trucking lobby that is defeating this?

Possibly had something to do with it, but I'd honestly say RR more than trucking. They could line trucks up from the fields to the refineries with zero cars in between and they couldn't handle a half of the volume needed to be moved. It's not effective enough and there's not going to be any loss to the trucking industry due to it if it goes through. Reduced fuel costs would benefit them more than any loss that they'd take.

The RR's on the other hand is a whole different ball game and while they are second largest consumer of diesel fuel in the world (second only to the US Navy) They also have the best futures buyers in the world working for them. Plus a major shift will soon be coming to them via LNG to replace and or supplement diesel usage which will dramatically reduce fuel costs for train traffic. Combine that with record earnings due to the crude by rail business from the baaken and you have some REALLY heavy incentive to lobby hard to stop Keystone XL.

Also Keystone XL (the current proposed expansion) won't effect that much of the traffic from the Baaken, however, if successful, further expansion could dramatically effect it.

Then thrown in the enviro-nazis who almost exclusively lobby to the D camp, and there's lots of reasons for them to vote against it.

In 100% honestly, I don't think the current proposed expansion would do that much to prices at the pump for us, it's Canadian oil that's going to flow in it for the most part, BUT I'd rather buy from the Canuks than from the towel heads. Better yet, build a good pipeline network from the Baaken, include branches in Eastern CO, KS, OK, etc, and move some of this stuff efficiently.

[Eric P]

We are experiencing shortages in construction material, not from supply, but lack of transportation. Building this line may not reduce gas prices, but it could lower other prices by increasing the supply of transportation.