NFA Lawsuits: Hollis v. Holder; Watson v. Holder New Machine Guns/Ending the NFA

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Precedent happens in the appeals court and above. (and can actually happen in the district court in published opinions, sort of) So depending on the relative skill of the attorney taking this on, if he doesn't invest quite enough time, or doesn't have quite enough experience in oral argument or tracking down case law. Losing can establish negative precedence. I haven't done enough digging on this case, I am somewhat uncomfortable that the Court is making accommodations for this "new" attorney. They have to gain experience somewhere, but firearm cases are NOT the place to be practicing how to do things right.

True but then again we do not know what the make up of the court will be in the future. A bird in the hand it worth two in the bush.

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GOA filed amicus brief in the Watson v. Lynch case today.


​http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/168....html&page=155

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http://www.thenation.com/article/the...snt-giving-up/

We are now on the Radar of the CSGV.

[TFOGGER]

Liberal slant much?

 Given that a hypothetical American, who is underage, has been convicted of a gun crime, has restraining orders out against him, and is on a terror watchlist could go online and have an assault rifle shipped to his door without incident, the US gun lobby seems to have its work cut out for it: simply blocking any action in Congress will perpetuate this madness.

[68Charger]

Liberal lying through their teeth much?

Originally Posted by Horribly Biased Article  Given that a hypothetical American, who is underage, has been convicted of a gun crime, has restraining orders out against him, and is on a terror watchlist could go online and have an assault rifle shipped to his door without incident, the US gun lobby seems to have its work cut out for it: simply blocking any action in Congress will perpetuate this madness.

FIFY

Comments require having a paid subscription- like that's gonna happen... so I submitted a correction request.

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Liberal slant much?

Yes they do. IF he is under age it would not be a felony, nor would he have a RO issued against him, nor could he be on the No Fly List. They are that stupid.

They still think it is pre GCA, were we could have Anti Tank Rifles mailed to our door. I wish that was the case.

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FIFY

Comments require having a paid subscription- like that's gonna happen... so I submitted a correction request.

Who would pay for that site? WHY would anyone?

[SamuraiCO]

The first paragraph is so wrong the stupid hurts.

If I was in Congress every time some "sensible gun law" would come up for vote I would immediately tack on nationwide CCW reciprocity, removal of the 1996 date for full auto firearms, and override of firearm bans/magazine size limits. If their background checks and "closing the gun show loophole" is really worth anything then they should have no problem relaxing the other stupid laws that have not shown to be effective and just penalizes law abiding citizens.

[SG1]

The first paragraph is so wrong the stupid hurts.

If I was in Congress every time some "sensible gun law" would come up for vote I would immediately tack on nationwide CCW reciprocity, removal of the 1996 date for full auto firearms, and override of firearm bans/magazine size limits. If their background checks and "closing the gun show loophole" is really worth anything then they should have no problem relaxing the other stupid laws that have not shown to be effective and just penalizes law abiding citizens.

You assume they care about facts, logic, reason, outcomes, or reality. They only want control.

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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/168....html&page=161


On January 15, 2016, undersigned was provided a copy of a Form 1, approvedon September 5, 1986, for a machinegun to an individual and not a governmental entity.This new fact betrays the Defendants’ claims of never approving an application for anon-governmental entity for a post-May 19, 1986 machinegun, and further,demonstrates that the BATFE has in fact allowed the registrations of post-May 19, 1986machineguns to other than governmental entities.

Well...The ATF has really positioned themselves into a corner.