Ferguson

[RMAC757]

...and there are police officers that really care about people. This kind of thing happens more often than some may think;

Police Video Goes Viral (But Not For The Reasons You Might Expect)

I agree. There is a 10% rule for every group. I probably hang out with more people in Law Endorcement than I do with the guys who share my job.

[cstone]

...and there are police officers that really care about people. This kind of thing happens more often than some may think;

Grandmother caught stealing eggs to feed hungry children 'overwhelmed' by kindness of police

I am so glad those brick phones and flip phones didn't have video cameras when I was in patrol. It's almost impossible to be a tough guy in uniform with stuff like that floating around the Interwebs. His wife will give him a hard time about feeding another woman and her children. His co-workers will expect him to buy them coffee. Next thing you know, the department will give him some kind of award and everytime he keys his mic on the radio, he will be greeted with kissing and sucking noises. No thank you! Just beat and cuff everybody. Then people will really know what kind of man you are.

Merry Christmas! Enjoy your grey baloney sammich and colored water lunch, courtesy of the county jail!

[Gman]

I guess the same could be said both ways. This is a discussion board, as long as it's civil, I don't mind discussion.

I'm probably not the only one that's confused by your comments about even Constitutional protection. Feel free to share your feelings, but please don't attribute the contrary position to someone not making that assertion.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Gee, a police chief pulling a blatantly political stunt on the side of political correctness. I'm so shocked.

The cop that helped the grandmother is a real cop. The cops that defended life and property against the hooligans looting "protesting" are real cops. The cop who attempted to enforce safety by getting pedestrians out of the middle of the street then recognized a probable burglar only to be assaulted, vilified, and made a national target for his troubles (as well as lose his career) was a real cop.

[RMAC757]

I'm probably not the only one that's confused by your comments about even Constitutional protection. Feel free to share your feelings, but please don't attribute the contrary position to someone not making that assertion.

No problem. I guess I don't understand where the confusion is. My apologies if it was convoluted.

[68Charger]

I don't think "all lives matter" is a liberal platitude... like someone else said, then they wouldn't be killing unborn babies
Liberals are fighting AGAINST those that say "All lives matter": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julia-...b_6223072.html

The way I see "ALL lives matter" is just that- and as soon as you are threatening someone else's life with your actions, you forfeit your right- because you don't respect their right to live, you forfeit yours. That is the right to self defence (or defence of others).

[Big John]

I wasn't going nearly that far or even leading towards that. . In context, what I wrote was that people have the "right" to protest....not commit crime. The same as gun owners. It doesn't matter what it's over. Do we select a committee to determine what's worthy of protesting and what's not? That would be the last thing we need....more govt oversight. Nowadays people protest far less than they use too.The argument that people protest over anything is way off base. Protests have been going on since the raise in Tea prices and draft notices of the civil war and they included destruction of property ironically and murder. These large protests in almost every major city of the US are constitutionallly protected freedoms and have been mostly peaceful in nature. I don't think however that the main focus of protests was Brown, but instead the divide between the community and local law enforcement agencies ( Gurley, Hill, Garner, etc ). My point is you don't have to like it ( like most anti-gunners ). It's a constitutionally protected freedom. I also think that comparing these incidents to a "murderous rampage" is a little over the top. To those of you who say "if you don't want a confrontation, don't commit crime"..,,,,when was the last time you exceeded the speed limit? I'd argue that is far more harmful than selling "singles" on the street corner in New York.

my 2 cents.

Since at least one of the events being protested is predicated on an outright lie and the other highly questionable... Not many already give two squirts of piss what they are currently protesting. Therefore, their next stupid protest will cared about even less ("watered down").


BTW... IBTL

[Bailey Guns]

I don't think "all lives matter" is a liberal platitude... like someone else said, then they wouldn't be killing unborn babies
Liberals are fighting AGAINST those that say "All lives matter": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julia-...b_6223072.html

No, the liberal BLACK author of that piece you quoted is fighting against people saying "all lives matter" because she feels whitey doesn't really believe it. In other words, she's tired of hearing it as well, because she doesn't believe it's said sincerely and it's overused. Which is exactly what makes it a platitude. No, she would prefer people said only "black lives matter".

But, if all "black lives matter", why aren't blacks in an uproar over the killings of blacks by blacks in inner cities like Chicago and Detroit? It's because of blatant hypocrisy, that's why. "Black lives matter" only when they're killed by white police officers, apparently. She never mentions the hundreds, perhaps thousands (I don't know the number), of blacks killed by blacks in the hood and elsewhere. And "black lives matter" certainly isn't the case when the black person killed is a police officer: Officer Kevin Jordan was killed by a white man earlier this year in Georgia. I don't recall ever hearing his name mentioned by Obama (guess Officer Jordan didn't look like a son Obama might've had) or Holder. I don't recall Sharpton or Jackson mentioning his name either. As someone else stated, apparently Officer Jordan was on the wrong side of the Thin Blue Line.

The way I see "ALL lives matter" is just that- and as soon as you are threatening someone else's life with your actions, you forfeit your right- because you don't respect their right to live, you forfeit yours. That is the right to self defence (or defence of others).

I find that statement quite contradictory. So, apparently, all lives DON'T matter if you're willing to kill in self-defense. Which is basically what I said except that I said I could kill a terrorist and not feel any remorse whatsoever...because to me the life of a terrorist doesn't matter at all.

[cstone]

All lives matter... to someone.

Not actually politically correct, but the way I was raised, every living and non-living thing was created by God for a purpose. While I often fail, I try not to take anything in creation for granted. No rock, no grain of sand, no dog, no cat, no person, not even a cockroach is useless. Whenever I have been wasteful of anything or taken it for granted, and I actually noticed that I had done so, I feel remorse. That doesn't mean I will never do it again, in fact, I am just about guaranteed to kill and waste again. It is a weakness I live with.

Death is coming for each of us. How you die is less important than how you live, IMO. People want to protest? Go right ahead. People want to interfere with the freedom of others, without due process? We have laws and law enforcement officers, and prosecutors, and judges for that. People want to kill or seriously injure others without legal justification? We have self-defense for that.

I think the type of person you consider yourself to be is less dependent on your skin color than your self perception in your own head. Be who you want to be. You have that choice. I try to be pleasant.

[sniper7]

I'd say there is a big difference between protesting and destroying property, burning buildings, looting, theft, rape, threats to rape and kill officers wives, to kill the officer and his family, etc etc.

I have nothing but disdain for those individuals who took part in those actions, ruining lives, and continuing to threaten and take part in these actions after the court system has done its duty.

these people were not protesting. They were breaking laws, ruining lives/businesses, destroying trust, and not only hurting others, but hurting themselves while they were at it.

For those who are doing peaceful protests, marching, etc. that is great for them, their cause falls on my deaf ears but I support their right to protest and have their voices heard. I disagree with them based on the evidence and the facts, and I agree with the jury's decision not to indict.