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    Quote Originally Posted by mindfold View Post
    ... I have a bright future with a very stable company. ...
    I believe you answered your question.

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    I don't know what your line of work is, but the tech sector in CO is booming.

    Are you happy because of your work? People? Manager? Because that is a HUGE! the people you see and work with daily, sometimes more than your family are why people stay at a company. If you are in good standing at your current employer, theres no harm in being honest. If you leave, leave on good terms. Employers have to understand that people, especially the newer generations are changing jobs every 3 years.
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    "I don't know buddy. I'm really happy where I'm at. Considering the great benefits and people here, it would have to be something like 2X what I make here to even consider leaving."

    Doesn't burn a bridge and opens the door to a ridiculous offer.

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    Grass isn't always greener on the other side. I'm very content where I am now and don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon. Regardless of a "number", It's all about being happy where you are in life. An old friend once told me, "If the pay doesn't outweigh the bullshit...it's time to go".
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    OP, my opinion is that one misses a lot if they just evaluate a potential relocation/new job as just "What % increase over my current salary is reasonable?"

    You said you're in Management. Then ask for a for a five-year contract and a perhaps a meaningful cash signing bonus. The contract takes much of the risk out for you. Certainly some long-term compensation should also be considered, such as stock options or a pension, or at least generous 401(k) matching.

    Also ask for "Full Relocation Expenses" which would include: Broker commission on sale of your current home, house hunting expenses with a generous per diem, all loan origination, closing costs, and inspections associated with the purchase of a new home, moving your vehicles to new home, all packing and moving expenses, etc.

    If you for some reason are underwater on your current mortgage, ask for that to be covered as well. If the new company really wants a Mangement candidate, this generous add-on would not be out of the question.

    Hope this helps.
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    I'd look at this another way. Tell the guy to ignore the salary right now, you want to talk to him about the job. All the details. What the company does, what their 5 year plan is, what the future holds, etc. Then get into what your role would be. Talk to people you'd be possibly working with. Maybe it's going to be something that's pretty cool and that you'd actually be excited about. Maybe they've got some new big long term contracts coming up and this will be a great opportunity. Once you get through all that, then take a day to think about it, and then discuss salary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindfold View Post
    Retirement benefits cannot match where I am now. "Double your current salary" is not a serious response. I do not want to burn a bridge. These kind of connections with this level of people is not to be taken lightly.
    You shouldn't be burning a bridge if you give sufficient exit notice and complete your current projects.

    No employer in this era should be turning down someone who left to try something new and decided to come back after a year or two if it didn't work out, so long as they didn't grabass or steal on the way out.

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    So mindfold, what did you end up tell him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    I have no idea what that means...

    I just thought I would be the guy to say it
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...wo+in+the+bush

    Sometimes what you have (a bird in your hand) is worth better than a chance (catching more birds) to have more and the possibility of loosing what you have in the process of catching the birds in the bush.
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    I closed my last company and went back to work for someone. The pay was half of what it was, the benefits were better, but one thing that couldn't be bought was job satisfaction. If your happy where your at, have a bright future, why leave? You can't buy happiness in a career. Money makes it easier to deal with, but in the end not waking up dreading having to go to work was worth the most to me, you spend to much time at work to not be happy.

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