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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    A pilot intentionally bringing a plane down and killing his/her passengers is not analogous to a police officer using an unauthorized but not illegal restraint tactic and unintentionally causing the death of a person with a criminal record and resisting arrest, during the course of arrest. You can't charge someone for violating policy that doesn't rise to a violation of law.

    Garner also had other medical issues that contributed to his death: hypertension, bronchial asthma, obesity and diabetes. He was a physical wreck.
    .......,.,,

    My opinions have nothing to do with not wanting to "cross the thin blue line". Some of you need to get over that. I haven't worn a badge for 13 years. But, unlike most of you, I've been there, know the training, know the procedures and I have a good working knowledge of the law and legal process. I didn't learn what I know about police work and the legal system from watching TV. Many of you apparently did...and you didn't even watch the entire episode apparently.

    I wouldn't attempt to make a judgement on a commercial pilot who made a mistake flying a 767 (or any other airliner) because I don't know how to fly an airliner. Nor would I tell an IT guy how to do his job because I don't know the ins and outs of it (or IT). I don't know why everyone seems to think they're some kind of freakin expert on police work when they've never done it. Or why they think they know better than a grand jury on whether or not to issue a true bill when they didn't hear the evidence and the grand jury did.

    Bailey, my comparisons of the two jobs were more about the fact that carelessness at either can cost lives. Both jobs require that total strangers place a large amount of blind trust in you to keep them safe and assume your training is adequate to do so. As you know, every time there is an air accident we are heavily scrutinized and often found at least partially at fault even when those actions had nothing to do with the final outcome ( Most of the time we're also not there anymore to defend ourselves ). I won't get into it, but one of my degrees ( I'm not that smart, 2 was just more cost effective than one ) is heavily based in constitutional law, so I have studied the structure and process of our legal system. I like to stay clear of most race based threads as they turn into stupid forums for people to allow themselves to be heard and spout venom. I do not believe this is one of them though a couple have tried to steer it that way.

    Often it appears that the level of participation on this site has to do more with a passive "Hate meter" than a common interest in the 2nd Amendment and our general rights as citizens. Everyone knows who most of the fire starters are. Bailey, you commented a lot on the Martain/Zimmerman and Wilson/Brown cases as well. A lot of which could've construed as speculation on your part. I guess my point in all of this worthless babble is that. "On it's face" something stinks here. I'm also tired of seeing this awesome country ripped apart over stuff as stupid as ethnicity and race ( You're either a citizen or your not....end of story). Even though we've had our polite differences, I alone should be your reference that not everyone thinks as part of a heard mentality. Yet it continues to be the catalyst for many of these conversations.

    Finally, who gives a rat crap about Sharpton or Jackson. The only reason the media puts them on TV is that they know it will piss people off and increase viewer percentage. As most of our parents taught us.....ignore them and it will go away.

    Have a good day
    R
    Last edited by RMAC757; 12-04-2014 at 10:06.

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