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    What if Santa is real and you people with children are just helping him milk the system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    What if Santa is real and you people with children are just helping him milk the system?

    there is that lol

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    Around 9-10 years old. I didn't have any older siblings, I went to Catholic school & Christmas was a HUGE deal to my dad so he did everything he could to make it awesome for us & keep us believing.

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    I always found the presents from Santa hidden in the closet. It was when I was carefully checking to see what I would be receiving from Santa and got caught, and subsequently go no gifts from Santa that I found out he was not real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    I dont know if I ever thought there was a real santa. My kids have never been told his is real.

    kinda of creepy. a fat beared pedo who breaks/sneaks into your house and gives your kids presents. I thought we were taught not to take candy from strangers.


    I have never understood why parents would let children think that someone else gave their kids free stuff. You would think they would want to take the credit so their kids would be grateful. If I give my kids something, I want them to understand it took hard work and money to purchase their gifts, not some fairy god mother figure.
    Lol very good point.
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    I figured it out when I was 7 or 8 because I was a snooper and I found the present stash and put 2 and 2 together.

    I didn't let on to my parents because 1) I figured the gifts would stop coming once I let them know I had it figured out and 2) I had a little brother that I didn't want to ruin it for (yeah, one of the few times I was a good big brother I'd say it was about 95% reason 1 5% reason 2).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    the movies and songs are cute. its just the lying to children to make them believe he is real, I dont understand.
    I don't think you have to lie to kids. I like the carefully worded response in the classic "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" editorial.

    Virginia, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except what they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

    Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus. It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

    Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

    You may tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Virginia, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

    No Santa Claus! Thank God! he lives, and lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.
    The fiction of Santa Claus is -- IMNSHO -- but a representation of the larger truth of the spirit of Christmas. The idea that someone or something exists for the sole purpose of giving to others is appealing to me. Santa isn't a pedo because he doesn't want anything more than for kids to be happy, much like the happiness Kris Kringle brought the little Dutch girl in "Miracle on 34th Street" simply by singing a song with her in Dutch. I find it intriguing that as our times get darker and darker, the mass media pushes Santa Claus and Christmas to the back or mocks them and increases the presence of Samhain/Halloween.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNAFU View Post
    WHAT??? Santa Claus isn't real?
    My x-mas (and all future) is now ruined.

    Thank gawd there's still a rabbit that lay's decorated hard boiled egg's and shit's out chocolate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    The fiction of Santa Claus is -- IMNSHO -- but a representation of the larger truth of the spirit of Christmas. The idea that someone or something exists for the sole purpose of giving to others is appealing to me. Santa isn't a pedo because he doesn't want anything more than for kids to be happy, much like the happiness Kris Kringle brought the little Dutch girl in "Miracle on 34th Street" simply by singing a song with her in Dutch. I find it intriguing that as our times get darker and darker, the mass media pushes Santa Claus and Christmas to the back or mocks them and increases the presence of Samhain/Halloween.
    One of the grand ironies of Santa Claus is that he's in part based on Bishop Nicholas of Myra who punched Egyptian Theologian Arius in the face at the Council of Nicaea in AD 325 because he was pushing the idea that the church should adopt his belief Jesus was not the Son of God. The aftermath of which ended up leading to the Nicene Creed being written (its a long story that involves Nicholas being visited by Jesus while in jail over the punch, you can read it here not going to discuss the story any further here as this isn't the proper venue and that's not really the point).

    So a guy that put his life on the line defending Christianity from secularism has now become THE symbol of the secularization of Christmas.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    I read it on facebook...

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