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    [QUOTE=TFOGGER;1794229One would hope that people that are applying for CCW permits have enough sense not to carry while impaired, but the cynic in me says otherwise, regardless of what the state does. Those that are inclined to carry while intoxicated will do so if the state allows them to have a CCW permit or not.[/QUOTE]

    After recieving my CCW 28ish yrs ago, It was one of the reasons i started my slow but sure move away from consuming alcoholic beverages, outside the home. IF we were drinking / at bars, the gun was not on hand & vice versa The fear of loosing my CCW, which at that time was by sheriff not state wide, out weighed having a beverage.

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    I see it very Similar to Mark, and dare I say it, but it's a case by case, person by person issue. A responsible person isn't going to carry when they decide to go out and let their hair down at the bar, likewise they aren't going to do it stoned out of their gourd. But someone who's an honest to goodness addict (drug, alcohol, or otherwise) isn't going to see anything wrong with their actions, or with carrying a gun when they can hardly stand, just as most don't think twice about driving in the same shape. Point being, IMHO if you have any repeated alcohol and or drug convictions no CCW for you, outside of that, I have a hard time saying that they (alcohol and MJ) should be treated any different.

    I also somewhat agree with Ronin on the issue, there's not a reliable live testing platform for MJ impairment like BAC. I honestly think that's probably the single biggest hurdle to nationwide legalization. The DUI issue surrounding it, along with current testing measures surrounding work, etc only being able to tell if you have used it within a given time period, not if you are under the influence of it, leaves too many liabilities on the table.

    While i agree with the repeat alcohol, i disagree with the drug part. For many a decade in this country getting caught with a few joints was considered a felony. In Wyo if you were in possession ( Pot) you were charged with a felony. John or Jane Doe who in their younger years had a run in with LE while in possession of Pot, would be disqualified because their states law is stricter than say CA or WA. Same for other states, NY at one time had a ZERO TOLERANCE for possession of pot, ANY AMOUNT. You got caught you were gone for 13+ months, depending on qty / weight. It was a longer sentence for weed than cocaine.
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