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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Can you get a ticket for expired insurance if your paper insurance card is expired but you still show valid and current digital proof of insurance???
    I'm not sure if, by law, digital proof is adequate, but I got into a wreck and didn't have my paper copy. I renewed a week or so before and just forgot to print it. I logged on and showed the State Trooper my phone and he was fine with it. It was funny too, because I had terrible cell coverage and it took forever to download.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I was just pulled over on my way home by a member of the El Paso County Sheriff's office.

    This was the first time I've ever been pulled over and I legitimately didn't know why.

    The officer was polite and respectful, as I tried to be throughout the encounter. This thread is not about cops. If it goes there, I'll ask the mods to shut it down.

    The officer initially told me that he pulled me over because I failed to signal for a lane change and because I was driving with a cracked windshield. I immediately objected (as politely as I could) because I am very adamant about using a signal when changing lanes. It really ticks me off when people change lanes without signaling - just one of those things, I guess. I asked him where I committed the alleged offense and he pointed to the rough spot about 200yds behind our current location. I kind of stared at him in disbelief because I didn't know what to say. I gave him my license and registration, along with my insurance card (which expired on 5 Dec).

    When he came back, I immediately apologized for the insurance card, which I knew was not up to date, and I showed him the up to date card on my phone. He brushed it off. He then handed me a ticket for $48.50 for the cracked windshield, didn't mention the alleged lane change without signal, and said he wasn't concerned with the insurance card. He asked if I had any questions. I asked how he could justify fining me $50 for a cracked windshield that in no way obscures the driver's vision. He gave me the whole "signing is not an admission of guilt" line and wouldn't offer any further explanation. He told me to be safe when I re-entered traffic and to have a nice day.

    I'm kind of confused by the whole exchange.... Was he writing me a ticket for the windshield to pry some money out of my pocketbook when he knew the lane change thing was BS? Was he just being a nice guy and letting the lane change without a signal go (if I did, in fact, commit the alleged actions... I'm not perfect, but I'm pretty darn sure I used a signal. Like 99% sure.) and writing me a lesser ticket for the windshield? Why didn't he care about my insurance?


    And now with that out in the open, is it possible and/or reasonable to fight the windshield ticket? It's basically a poor tax. Or a conspiracy with the county road commission that puts GRAVEL on the roads when it snows. Is there any chance I could go to court and not have to pay the windshield ticket? I really don't want to pay it because there is no principle reason to: driving with a cracked windshield like mine certainly does not endanger the public or submit innocent people to unnecessary dangers.

    What do you guys think? Did I get a BS ticket? Was the LEO doing me a favor by ONLY writing me a windshield ticket? Can I fight this in court?
    $50 is a bargain; mine was $79. Every encounter I had with LEO on the road was positive until I ran upon the windshield lady who pissed me off. It is hard to stomach the inconvenience and cash for something so stupid, but I guess it happens. However, the positive experiences certainly outweigh the negative ones. My LEO neighbor was rather funny though; his sentiment was the same as mine as he pointed out the crack in his department issued unmarked vehicle's windshield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbeau30 View Post
    I don't actually think crossing a solid white line (with care) is illegal.
    Yes, it is. Crossing any solid line, be it white or yellow. That is why they paint solid white lines in construction zones to keep people from changing lanes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Can you get a ticket for expired insurance if your paper insurance card is expired but you still show valid and current digital proof of insurance???
    They are allowing this now for proof if you don't have the current card. Also, the insurance companies report to the state and your registration information on his computer will also show it being valid or not.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    Why is that? I've used our ins for this baybe 4 times in 6 or 7 years and haven't had them raise rates or anything. And it's part of my coverage that I pay for, so why not?
    Likewise. It's one of the selling points outside the cost of coverage for what we receive. Maybe some people Aren't in Good hands.
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    I'm not trying to discourage anyone from using their coverage. I've never even checked if any of my policies cover windshields, but I highly doubt it. Anything like spent forgiveness, or free windshield repair comes at additional premium, and the low cost of a new windshield once every few years is not worth the price difference to me.
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    Never put your amendment 64 bumper sticker next to your 2 amendment bumper sticker....

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    Thanks for the responses on electronic proof of ins.

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    Merry Christmas.

    Here is an offer to spend $19 for a $100 off credit toward a new windshield.
    It should offset the $50 fine...a fine with no 'points' I might add.
    http://local.amazon.com/denver-north...auto_vfe_deals
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