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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Pfffftttt ... I told you I was an old fart. I'm proud to have been a 20XX before we got jammed in with the coneheads and that penitentiary out east will always be Falcatraz to me.
    FWIW, when we met, I didn't think you looked very old.
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    It does not matter if the tickets are BS or not. There are many laws that allow the enforcement of BS tickets. That is the world we live in and that fact isn't going to change just because we don't like BS tickets. If you don't want to get shafted with a BS ticket then don't be a target for them. Or you can CHOOSE to be a target for BS tickets by not keeping your car maintained or documentation in order and take the risk on getting a ticket for valid violations of the law. If you choose to be a lazy ass and get nabbed for it, you really don't have a leg to stand on when you whine about it.

    Its amazing how I have never gotten a BS ticket like this because I DO keep my vehicles properly maintained and have my documentation updated and available when requested. I have been pulled over for valid reasons, like speeding or changing lanes without a signal, several times and ended up not getting a ticket for anything. Did I deserve a ticket for the violations I performed? Hell Yes. I honestly can't tell you why I didn't get a ticket in the few instances where I didn't get one. But I think that being honest, polite and respectful to the officer regardless of the situation and having my vehicle in proper functioning order along with my documentation in proper order goes a long way in lessening my chances of being a Target for a ticket. Personally I think that a lot of the officers are looking for bigger fish to fry and simply want to see if you have outstanding warrants or crap like that when they run your info.

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    A cop once told me that a cracked/broken windshield has a lot to do with the integrity or lack of the integrity of the top of the vehicle being crushed in the event of a roll-over. Sounds right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    It does not matter if the tickets are BS or not. There are many laws that allow the enforcement of BS tickets. That is the world we live in and that fact isn't going to change just because we don't like BS tickets. If you don't want to get shafted with a BS ticket then don't be a target for them. Or you can CHOOSE to be a target for BS tickets by not keeping your car maintained or documentation in order and take the risk on getting a ticket for valid violations of the law. If you choose to be a lazy ass and get nabbed for it, you really don't have a leg to stand on when you whine about it.

    Its amazing how I have never gotten a BS ticket like this because I DO keep my vehicles properly maintained and have my documentation updated and available when requested. I have been pulled over for valid reasons, like speeding or changing lanes without a signal, several times and ended up not getting a ticket for anything. Did I deserve a ticket for the violations I performed? Hell Yes. I honestly can't tell you why I didn't get a ticket in the few instances where I didn't get one. But I think that being honest, polite and respectful to the officer regardless of the situation and having my vehicle in proper functioning order along with my documentation in proper order goes a long way in lessening my chances of being a Target for a ticket. Personally I think that a lot of the officers are looking for bigger fish to fry and simply want to see if you have outstanding warrants or crap like that when they run your info.
    LOL typical statist.

    Also, the guy didn't have probable cause to pull me over in the first place and he lied about it. Go ahead and defend those actions while you're at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    A cop once told me that a cracked/broken windshield has a lot to do with the integrity or lack of the integrity of the top of the vehicle being crushed in the event of a roll-over. Sounds right to me.
    A cop once told me that "This is a no-fault state, so no one is at fault, you have to transport your pistol unloaded and locked in a container in the trunk, and that I HAVE to get a ticket for...something."


    But there probably is merit to the windshield thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post


    But there probably is merit to the windshield thing.
    There is definitely validity to the windshield adding strength to the shell of the vehicle, but take a step back and ask yourself: is it the government's responsibility to ensure you are making good choices?

    Kind of the same as seatbelt laws I think. If I don't wear a seatbelt (Note: I always do, because it's a useful and proven safety feature), would it affect anyone else? Is my windshield crack affecting anyone else or endangering the public?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    There is definitely validity to the windshield adding strength to the shell of the vehicle, but take a step back and ask yourself: is it the government's responsibility to ensure you are making good choices?

    Kind of the same as seatbelt laws I think. If I don't wear a seatbelt (Note: I always do, because it's a useful and proven safety feature), would it affect anyone else? Is my windshield crack affecting anyone else or endangering the public?
    Yes, it could be argued, perhaps not as easily as the seat belt analogy. What's the point though? We're all in agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Is my windshield crack affecting anyone else or endangering the public?
    Yes, to the extent that at some point the crack endangers the safe operation of the vehicle due to the likelihood of it suffering catastrophic failure while in motion. THAT depends on the size and location of the crack and is really a value judgment. Like I said, I drove a truck with a 3 ft crack for over a year but it was my secondary vehicle and was in a location where it neither interfered with my field of view nor did it look like it was in danger of catastrophic failure. In your case, it probably wasn't that serious either but there is a hook for government interest and therefore intervention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    There is definitely validity to the windshield adding strength to the shell of the vehicle, but take a step back and ask yourself: is it the government's responsibility to ensure you are making good choices?

    Kind of the same as seatbelt laws I think. If I don't wear a seatbelt (Note: I always do, because it's a useful and proven safety feature), would it affect anyone else? Is my windshield crack affecting anyone else or endangering the public?
    If you're an illegal alien with 12 kids in the car, all without seatbelts, and you smash into the Taco Bell, and all your kids hit the windshield, and the windshield breaks, and half your kids smash into the side of the Taco Bell, who's gonna pay for their ER bill?

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