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RMGO membership "dues"
Just got my RMGO membership renewal. Went to $50 this year, was $30 last year. I guess they figured all of their requests for money wasn't doing the job, so they would get more funds this way. It's not gonna work on me, I'm out. I'll spend my money on another state gun rights org. like the second amendment foundation.
Guess Dudley is looking for another house...
He's increased the storefront parking spaces being taken up to 3. Side street parking for 2, 1 up front.Originally Posted by coloccw
IMO he's had his day in the spotlight. IF RMGO wanted to regain "credibility" DB should resign .
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He has done a great job getting those unconstitutional laws repealed. Oh wait.
Who are you to want to escape a thugs bullet? That is only a personal prejudice, ( Atlas Shrugged)
"Those that don't watch the old media are uninformed, those that do watch the old media are misinformed." - Mark Twain
Win. Thread closed.
What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
-- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)
To be fair, I can't imagine anyone or anything that could have repealed those laws in this short of a time frame.
"There are no finger prints under water."
How, exactly, would you have proposed to repeal the 2013 citizen control laws (aka "gun control") during the 2014 general session? In 2013, Democrats held 37 House seats and 20 Senate seats. Republicans held 28 House seats and 15 Senate seats. In 2014, Democrats held 37 House seats and 18 Senate seats. Republicans held 28 House seats and 17 Senate seats, thanks to the two recalls. In any year, 33 or more "Yes" votes are required to pass a bill through the House and 18 or more "Yes" votes are required to pass a bill through the Senate.
In 2014, I sponsored and introduced House Bill 14-1151 to repeal the "mag ban." That bill had 27 House sponsors (5 short of the necessary 33 "Yes" votes) and 18 Senate sponsors (thank you, Senator Lois Tochtrop D, Adams County). The bill died in the first House committee on a party line vote, with all Democrats voting "No."
It is all too common to hear calls for "repeal" from people who either don't understand - or worse - refuse to accept, the reality that the ONLY way for the legislature to repeal anything is to pass a new bill into law. There is no way to pass a bill into law without the required 33 or more "Yes" votes in the House, 18 or more "Yes" votes in the Senate, and for the Governor to not veto that bill. 33, 18 & 1 is a hard and fast reality. It is fact.
I've posted before about this reality. For the Colorado General Assembly, there is ONE tool in the toolbox: a Bill. A bill can do three things: 1) Add words to state statute. 2) Remove words from state statute. 3) Change words in state statute.
Here's a link to HB 14-1151:
HB14-1151
Look at Page 2, Lines 2 - 3. "SECTION 1. In Colorado Revised Statutes, repeal part 3 of article 12 of title 18."
What that means is that HB 14-1151 sought to remove (Option 2) all of the words in Title 18 that resulted from the "mag ban" bill from 2013 (HB 13-1224). We didn't need to list all of those words, we just needed to point to where those words are now in statute. In order for those words to be removed (repealed) from statute, the General Assembly MUST PASS A NEW BILL INTO LAW. In order for that new bill to pass into law, it MUST receive 33 or more "Yes" votes in the House, 18 or more "Yes" votes in the Senate, and for the Governor to not veto it.
It's important to understand how a Governor's veto works in Colorado. It's opposite from how it works at the federal level. Here in Colorado, the Governor must take action to veto a bill; he MUST sign a veto. At the federal level, a President can use a "pocket veto" and hold a bill indefinitely without taking any action. That bill from Congress would never become federal law. Here in Colorado, the Governor cannot use the "pocket veto" tactic to prevent a bill from becoming law. If he doesn't sign a bill within a prescribed period of time (depends on whether it's before or after the session ends in May), then that bill(s) become law without his signature.
OK, back to the Colorado Legislative Branch… there is a common and false assumption that the state legislature can somehow repeal law by some process other than by passing a new bill into law. That is fiction, it is false, there is one and only one way for the legislature to repeal a law: PASS A NEW BILL INTO LAW, which requires 33, 18 & 1. People have told me "We don't want a new bill, we just want that law repealed!" Nope, that's a contradiction. The state legislature CANNOT repeal an existing law by any process other than passing a new bill into law to remove (repeal) words out of existing statute. That's the ONLY way for the legislature to do it. And, the ONLY way for a bill to pass into law is to have 33 or more "Yes" votes in the House, 18 or more "Yes" votes in the Senate, and for the one Governor to not veto that bill (33, 18 & 1).
There is no other repeal process for the legislature. Do any of you think that one legislator could somehow order a law to be repealed? The Governor doesn't even have authority to enact or repeal law on his own, let alone one of one hundred legislators. A committee in the House or Senate doesn't have authority to repeal an existing law. One or both chambers (House or Senate) can't repeal an existing law unless they (we) pass a new bill, which requires 33 & 18 "Yes" votes. Even then, a repeal bill could receive a veto from the Governor and it would be dead. A 2/3 majority of both chambers (43 House, 24 Senate) is required to overturn a Governor's veto.
Last edited by SenHolbert; 12-20-2014 at 09:32. Reason: Typos.
If he was so sure that what he's doing would work he should have stopped it. However, those politicians have been bought and paid for long before the Aurora murders happened. They were just waiting for something that fits their narrative to come along.
Who are you to want to escape a thugs bullet? That is only a personal prejudice, ( Atlas Shrugged)
"Those that don't watch the old media are uninformed, those that do watch the old media are misinformed." - Mark Twain
The link in the email I received has a one year membership at $30.
Mine came in the mail. $50 Not gonna get it, I've had enough of that org. constantly badgering for money with nothing to show for it.
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