RMGO membership "dues"

[275RLTW]

OK, then don't devote time and money to RMGO.

It's odd how many gunnies reject the reality that politics requires money. Dudley and RMGO devote a great deal of time to gathering and storing up that precious resource so that they'll have it when they need it.

The issue is Dudley's use, or misuse rather, of those funds for his own personal bank accounts.




On another note, how much of YOUR own money have YOU donated to organizations this year? There are lots of requests out to the people to donate their last dollar but seemingly very little from the public servants. If I am wrong, please correct me.

[SenHolbert]

"On another note, how much of YOUR own money have YOU donated to organizations this year? There are lots of requests out to the people to donate their last dollar but seemingly very little from the public servants. If I am wrong, please correct me."

You can go to TRACER to find my political contributions. Keep in mind that you pay me, with the session per diem, a whopping $35,000 per year for this part-time job that's requires a full-time commitment. What I do with that salary and/or the money that I earn through my own company, is my own business… just as yours is to you. The saying "give until it hurts" applies very specifically to many of those who serve in the Colorado General Assembly. There is no lifetime pension for me. There is no travel budget. There is no office budget. There is no super healthcare plan as there is in Congress. We are prohibited from voting on any measure that would offer financial gain for the member or a member or our immediate family. This is not Congress.

I'm not asking for sympathy, just that we work from what is true.

[275RLTW]

"On another note, how much of YOUR own money have YOU donated to organizations this year? There are lots of requests out to the people to donate their last dollar but seemingly very little from the public servants. If I am wrong, please correct me."

You can go to TRACER to find my political contributions. Keep in mind that you pay me, with the session per diem, a whopping $35,000 per year for this part-time job that's requires a full-time commitment. What I do with that salary and/or the money that I earn through my own company, is my own business… just as yours is to you. The saying "give until it hurts" applies very specifically to many of those who serve in the Colorado General Assembly. There is no lifetime pension for me. There is no travel budget. There is no office budget. There is no super healthcare plan as there is in Congress. We are prohibited from voting on any measure that would offer financial gain for the member or a member or our immediate family. This is not Congress.

I'm not asking for sympathy, just that we work from what is true.

none of us get any of those benefits either and some on here would be grateful for 35K a year. I doubt you'll get any sympathy. So again, how much of YOUR money, not the money given in contributions, do you donate?

[sroz]

But, that doesn't mean that you - or anyone - has to agree or like their marketing, tactics, people. Nope, you have the freedom and liberty to choose who and what you will or will not support.

I don't go out of my way to bang on the NRA or any other 2A organization. The fact is, NRA spends more of their time and money at the federal level. Short of ratings, I haven't received support from the NRA. However, my campaigns have received financial support, endorsements, and mail from RMGO and/or RMGOPAC.

If you do not want to devote time or money to the no comprise organization, then that's OK. You aren't required to do so.

Sen. - yes, we do have the freedom to choose who we devote our time & $ to. I assume by " the no compromise organization" you are referring to RMGO. If so then no, I will not support them. As you say, it is my choice. Btw, congratulations on the support provided to you by Mr. Brown & his organizations.
I give you credit for posting on the forum. I sent the Gov an email expressing my disgust with his decision wrt Nathan Dunlap's planned execution. Even with my address, phone # and email, no reponse. So, I do appreciate your dialog & participation.

[hurley842002]

none of us get any of those benefits either and some on here would be grateful for 35K a year. I doubt you'll get any sympathy. So again, how much of YOUR money, not the money given in contributions, do you donate?

Personally, I could give a crap less how much personal money SenHolbert has donated. What I do give a crap about is how hard he fights for our 2a rights. SenHolbert is probably one of our biggest allies. With all the antis out there "representing" us, you are worried about how much Holbert donates out of pocket, please..

[275RLTW]

Personally, I could give a crap less how much personal money SenHolbert has donated. What I do give a crap about is how hard he fights for our 2a rights. SenHolbert is probably one of our biggest allies. With all the antis out there "representing" us, you are worried about how much Holbert donates out of pocket, please..

The things you will donate to and sacrafice luxuries is a better gague of what someone actually believes in rather than just redirecting contributions or lip service. Anyone can SAY they support something. Not everyone actually DOES anything though.

[hurley842002]

The things you will donate to and sacrafice luxuries is a better gague of what someone actually believes in rather than just redirecting contributions or lip service. Anyone can SAY they support something. Not everyone actually DOES anything though.

Pro 2a personal donations wouldn't hurt my opinion of an elected official by any means, but when you've got so many on Bloomberg's teet, I'm really more concerned with officials introducing/sponsoring and voting appropriately on pro 2a bills, and that SenHolbert has done.

[DOC]

I don't think we need a Republican majority to uphold the Constitution. Can't these Dims be convinced that they are holding the wrong position on this matter? Maybe they can be shown the Colorado version of the second amendment. Article 13 section 2 if I recall correctly.

But RMGO has got my money and will continue to do so. But I'm just not seeing the results.

And I know how our form of Government works. I probably know better than some of the people holding office. I just think its weird that the politicians think we are stupid and don't think we see that there is nothing going on. Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.

[Irving]

Sen Holbert is living proof that someone listens to Dudley. Who do you think brought him here? Everyone on the board has the ear of a senator. He probably doesn't give a hoot about your guns, but he wouldn't be here if he wasn't trying to court you/us. So he's here, throw ideas at him, he'll tell you what is possible, and occasionally he'll post about something he's doing so you can get on board and support it. This probably isn't a very common relationship opportunity. Let's not screw it up.

[hurley842002]

I could give a rats ass how much Holbert (or anyone else) for that matter, donates. I care what they do.
The fact that Holbert posts here is more rather demonstrative.

We will not be entertaining any more questions like that. Or in other words, stop the harassment.

If you believe "donating" money solves the 2a issues then you are very naïve. More is accomplished by people who have not "donated" but take individual action (e.g. the attorney in the Heller case, for instance). If you donate your money, ColoCCW, and get a chip on your back and think you've done your part, you are beyond naïve.

You want to know how much I've donated to NRA/RMGO/SAF/GOA this year?

I'll publicize that. Mix 8 oz of Jack with a shot of Shit.

Now that we have that out of our way, instead of attacking Holbert, why don't you attack me - if you've got the cahones.

Thank you.