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    I own a 2005 GTO that makes 675 HP & TQ at the wheels. With that much power at your fingertips you have to use solid judgement when doing some "Spirited Driving". You also need to know what the limits are for the given conditions. If not, you will pay the ultimate price in a hurry. This guy got an expensive lesson in poor judgement.

    Oh yeah and the $60K Dodge Hellcat makes 631 HP & 591 TQ at the wheels on a chassis dyno, which is a far cry from the claimed 707HP. This is pretty stout power but it also has a porky curb weight of 4439lbs......... My GTO is going to love slapping these things around in the summer on relaxing Sunday drives

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    What a sad sight. I've been waiting on mine to show up for what seems like an eternity.

    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    I own a 2005 GTO that makes 675 HP & TQ at the wheels. With that much power at your fingertips you have to use solid judgement when doing some "Spirited Driving". You also need to know what the limits are for the given conditions. If not, you will pay the ultimate price in a hurry. This guy got an expensive lesson in poor judgement.

    Oh yeah and the $60K Dodge Hellcat makes 631 HP & 591 TQ at the wheels on a chassis dyno, which is a far cry from the claimed 707HP. This is pretty stout power but it also has a porky curb weight of 4439lbs......... My GTO is going to love slapping these things around in the summer on relaxing Sunday drives
    Your claimed 631hp to the wheels is a bit more than 707 to the crank (720+)...which is where manufacturers run their hp ratings. It won't take much more than a tune and some exhaust work for my Hellcat (soon as the sumbish gets here) to drag that little goat of yours down the pavement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    What a sad sight. I've been waiting on mine to show up for what seems like an eternity.



    Your claimed 631hp to the wheels is a bit more than 707 to the crank (720+)...which is where manufacturers run their hp ratings. It won't take much more than a tune and some exhaust work for my Hellcat (soon as the sumbish gets here) to drag that little goat of yours down the pavement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    Your claimed 631hp to the wheels is a bit more than 707 to the crank (720+)...which is where manufacturers run their hp ratings. It won't take much more than a tune and some exhaust work for my Hellcat (soon as the sumbish gets here) to drag that little goat of yours down the pavement.

    700 HP isnt all that fast anymore, especially when you only put it to two wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado_Outback View Post
    700 HP isnt all that fast anymore, especially when you only put it to two wheels.

    Yeah okay. I'm alright with being down a couple hundred ponies, because with the hellcat I won't feel as if I've dumped $100k on a boy racer version of the maxima and at least half that to make it faster. I've ran into those guys at a local meet & greet or two. They are stupid fast but cars like that are very few and far between here. In fact, that video showcases the majority of street rides of that caliber in this neck of the woods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    Yeah okay. I'm alright with being down a couple hundred ponies, because with the hellcat I won't feel as if I've dumped $100k on a boy racer version of the maxima and at least half that to make it faster. I've ran into those guys at a local meet & greet or two. They are stupid fast but cars like that are very few and far between here. In fact, that video showcases the majority of street rides of that caliber in this neck of the woods.
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    People look at the numbers too much. It is not all about HP and torque. That is why merely 475HP Porsche GT3 kicks ass on circuit compare to cars with 125more HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    Yeah okay. I'm alright with being down a couple hundred ponies, because with the hellcat I won't feel as if I've dumped $100k on a boy racer version of the maxima and at least half that to make it faster. I've ran into those guys at a local meet & greet or two. They are stupid fast but cars like that are very few and far between here. In fact, that video showcases the majority of street rides of that caliber in this neck of the woods.
    My point was more to traction, not power.
    Like you saw in the video 500hp rwd cars had no traction(even from 40 or 50 roll..). I guess I could see owning a 500hp+ rwd if I lived some where that was warm enough to really enjoy driving it. Cold pavement+DOT tires+700hp= a lot of traction control light and/or wheelspin.
    To me the Hell cat is more about looking cool and that HP number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    What a sad sight. I've been waiting on mine to show up for what seems like an eternity.

    Your claimed 631hp to the wheels is a bit more than 707 to the crank (720+)...which is where manufacturers run their hp ratings. It won't take much more than a tune and some exhaust work for my Hellcat (soon as the sumbish gets here) to drag that little goat of yours down the pavement.
    Don't forget about a pretty massive diet, gonna take more than a tune and some pipes to overcome a 714lb weight disadvantage. Much fat on that lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsyKo View Post
    Don't forget about a pretty massive diet, gonna take more than a tune and some pipes to overcome a 714lb weight disadvantage. Much fat on that lady.
    Not forgetting forgetting anything when I say this...No it wont. This isn't your typical platform with an extra 15-30hp on the table left by the ecm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    Not forgetting forgetting anything when I say this...No it wont. This isn't your typical platform with an extra 15-30hp on the table left by the ecm.
    714 stock vs stock. Depending on the desired level of comfort, a GTO can be brought down to sub 3000lbs with minimal effort. And still be legal and daily driven. May take a LOT more than a tune and pipes to overcome that. I know for a fact there are some in town with similar power that are approaching 3k.
    Last edited by PsyKo; 12-24-2014 at 12:11.

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