ATF Sig brace updated ruling.

[hurley842002]

(disclaimer: I have the $200 NFA stamp for an SBR and have for many years now)

I have read countless posts on various online gun forums by people that were 'sure the ATF will nip this in the bud' when it comes to the Sig brace. There have been numerous posts by those who have jumped through the NFA hoops to get their SBR stamp that are belittling the Sig brace and essentially hoping that they will be deemed illegal. With friends like those, who needs enemies?!

I cannot help but think the incessant letter writing to the NFA branch of ATF to get yet one more clarification is by people that have their SBR stamp and are miffed that they jumped the hoops but others have seen fit not to.

If this letter had not been issued, I'm quite certain that someone else would see the necessity of writing their letter to ascertain "is it OK if I buy a Sig brace, even though it's OK that my neighbor bought one?".

Maybe we can now focus on the legality of shouldering a Glock 19, if we push it, maybe that can be deemed an NFA item when positioned 'just-so' on the body...

STFU just doesn't work, does it?!

I don't have a sig brace or an SBR stamp, but good post!

[Great-Kazoo]

cool, what we all wanted most for Christmas...1 more thread about the sigbrace.

2, i'm sure before end of the year SOMEONE will post it AGAIN. Probably the same person inquiring about mag kits, AGAIN.

[Great-Kazoo]

(disclaimer: I have the $200 NFA stamp for an SBR and have for many years now)

I have read countless posts on various online gun forums by people that were 'sure the ATF will nip this in the bud' when it comes to the Sig brace. There have been numerous posts by those who have jumped through the NFA hoops to get their SBR stamp that are belittling the Sig brace and essentially hoping that they will be deemed illegal. With friends like those, who needs enemies?!

I cannot help but think the incessant letter writing to the NFA branch of ATF to get yet one more clarification is by people that have their SBR stamp and are miffed that they jumped the hoops but others have seen fit not to.

If this letter had not been issued, I'm quite certain that someone else would see the necessity of writing their letter to ascertain "is it OK if I buy a Sig brace, even though it's OK that my neighbor bought one?".

Maybe we can now focus on the legality of shouldering a Glock 19, if we push it, maybe that can be deemed an NFA item when positioned 'just-so' on the body...

STFU just doesn't work, does it?!

Most definitely . I'm reading a lengthy write up about doing a Form 1 can. Without fail there's 1/2 doz people asking WELL IF SO & SO CAN, WHY CAN'T I ? OR the ass actually posting a pic of their project on their gun saying JUST WAITING ON MY F1 APPROVAL . They are the same ones, who post a pic of their AR pistol WITH the sig brace on the buffer, w/out it being on their arm. While a grey area for some. One less item shown on line is one less item drawing attention.

Fuk why not show pic of your homemade DIAS inquiring if it's legal to build your own. AFTER THE FACT.
What happened to DADT??

[ray1970]

Lol. Gotta love anything to do with the government. My condolences to any of you are government employees.

If actual use of an item factors into the equation of how an item is classified, maybe I should write a letter too. Perhaps if I installed an actual stock onto an AR pistol with the sole purpose of adding weight to the rear of the weapon to make it balance better with no intention of using said part to fire it from the shoulder they would send me a letter saying it is OK to do so?

[kidicarus13]

. They are the same ones, who post a pic of their AR pistol WITH the sig brace on the buffer, w/out it being on their arm. ?

What are you talking about? https://www.ar-15.co/threads/129295-...ls-Legal/page2

[Big John]

Most definitely . I'm reading a lengthy write up about doing a Form 1 can. Without fail there's 1/2 doz people asking WELL IF SO & SO CAN, WHY CAN'T I ? OR the ass actually posting a pic of their project on their gun saying JUST WAITING ON MY F1 APPROVAL . They are the same ones, who post a pic of their AR pistol WITH the sig brace on the buffer, w/out it being on their arm. While a grey area for some. One less item shown on line is one less item drawing attention.

Fuk why not show pic of your homemade DIAS inquiring if it's legal to build your own. AFTER THE FACT.
What happened to DADT??

The thread you speak of is getting to be a real crack up. A few of those guys are so afraid of the ATF that they are asking some really stupid shit.

Some people spend wayyy too much time on the interwebs with images of black SUV's in their head worrying about their Sig Brace slipping off their wrist and landing on their shoulder.

Ahh crap... I just noticed that this thread is in NFA Items. The SB15'd guns I have are now illegal if I hold them the wrong way.

[Tactical Joke]

Why do you assume those of us with SBRs care about the Sig Brace, hatidua? I'm all for it. Some folks live in ban states, or have anti-Constitution CLEOs and I love seeing them able enjoy shorties. Most of us, I'd wager, would love to see the brace continue to make a mockery of the NFA and the ATF, and I'd love even more for my 6 SBR stamps to become completely worthless. Why? Because then I don't have to worry about which upper is on which lower, or making sure I fill out the right paperwork way in advance of any classout of state... All for a weopon that's less lethal than a longer gun, simply because some jackhole politician gets his or her physics education from Hollyweird.

We're divided enough without adding a NFA / Non-NFA division to the mix.

The ATF has too much time on its hands.

[hurley842002]

Why do you assume those of us with SBRs care about the Sig Brace, hatidua? I'm all for it. Some folks live in ban states, or have anti-Constitution CLEOs and I love seeing them able enjoy shorties. Most of us, I'd wager, would love to see the brace continue to make a mockery of the NFA and the ATF, and I'd love even more for my 6 SBR stamps to become completely worthless. Why? Because then I don't have to worry about which upper is on which lower, or making sure I fill out the right paperwork way in advance of any classout of state... All for a weopon that's less lethal than a longer gun, simply because some jackhole politician gets his or her physics education from Hollyweird.

We're divided enough without adding a NFA / Non-NFA division to the mix.

The ATF has too much time on its hands.

Did you not read his disclaimer at the beginning of his comment?

Go to any number of the "other" sights, and you will see the hate for the sig brace from the NFA guys.

[Hotchef181818]

The title of this thread is very misleading. Please show me the updated "RULING". Please provide some sort of statement from the manufacturer. Anything ??

What you posted is an opinion letter that applies to the person it's addressed to. Furthermore the Atf answered his question correctly in the letter stating that what he wanted to do would in fact be an sbr. "INTENT" was established when his dumbass inked that letter.

Did it occur that it could potentially be fraudulent ? Why did the person hold onto it for almost 2 months, then share?

[zimagold]

I have been waiting for contradicting letters. This seems to be an expected outcome of events based on the last few years.

I bought a Sig brace a few months back, but returned it and decided to go the stamp route. No hate for the Sig Brace, just not my thing. Will still be keeping a spare pistol lower around for flexibility.

I feel for anyone that cannot go the NFA route. I moved 10 times in the last 10 years and just started collecting stamps this year. I think/hope I wont be moving for a few years.