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    After watching the video, did anyone see anything they would like to criticize about the local police conduct?

    Driving is not a Constitutionally protected right. You consent to obtain and maintain several things in your vehicle as you operate a motor vehicle on public roads. Most checkpoints are no more inconvenient than a busy traffic intersection.

    One of the best things I found on the web site associated with this flyer was this information:

    Of course every cop is different, but most have three major priorities in mind while they’re dealing with you, in this order:
    Get home safe.
    Don’t get fired.
    Don’t get sued.

    http://fairdui.org/flyer/what-police-are-thinking/

    If you believe the driving impairment laws are unjust, take action and petition your representatives. Checkpoints have been vetted through local, state, and federal courts and they are pretty well planned out for the most part.

    While I wholeheartedly support the freedom of speech, I wish more people in this country would exercise their right to remain silent. Just another cross I am willing to bear

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    I can honestly say I don't remember ever seeing, let alone getting stopped at, a DUI checkpoint. I didn't realize they were such a problem. I guess I've lived a charmed life. I do see why many find them infringing. Setting up checkpoints and asking for papers inside our borders seems a bit out of place in a supposedly free society.

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    I was once stopped at a DUI checkpoint, asked to exit my vehicle, and was found to be carrying on my person without a CCW. Everyone was very professional and the whole thing probably lasted 5 minutes or less. Spoiler Alert: I made it out just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    No, you don't multiply it by 50 to 70 vehicles. Usually, not every vehicle is stopped...it's predetermined which vehicles will be stopped but it must not be random. For example, every 10th vehicle or every vehicle. You may think it's a waste of time. But they usually are very productive in terms of catching drunk drivers though there is a perception, even among many police officers, that they're ineffective. At least in my experience they've been productive. But my experience is limited to only working a few checkpoints.
    I've been through quite a few checkpoints and never been stopped......and there has been many times in my life where i nodded/waved at a cop (or just walked in front of them) and got stopped on the street and frisked for weapons and questioned just because i "have that look", so i have to agree they aren't just harassing everyone looking for tickets. I still dont agree with checkpoints, just agreeing that they are not stopping every car and doing a soft search/questioning session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Checkpoints have been vetted through local, state, and federal courts and they are pretty well planned out for the most part.
    Magazine capacity limits have also been "vetted" through local, state, and federal courts ...doesn't make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Magazine capacity limits have also been "vetted" through local, state, and federal courts ...doesn't make it right.
    They may not be right (matter of opinion), but they are legal in many jurisdictions. These types of issues get settled in courtrooms and legislatures...not on the side of a road. I support peaceful civil disobedience. Find me any place on the planet where you agree with every law on the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    So it isn't really a problem where you live...at all? And I'd say not just patriots should be concerned about Constitutional infringements. Every citizen should be whether they consider themselves a patriot or not.
    Right now..... Of course not. At one time I never thought the State would infringe on my 2nd either. I completely agree on every citizen should be but sad they are not. As a citizen, it is always good to question.


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    They don't really bother me since I never drink and drive. Sure, it may delay me slightly but it's never a big deal. I just wish Colorado would make it a felony state. At least it might feel check points could make some progress instead of just being a fund raiser and restocking the pond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    They don't really bother me since I never drink and drive. Sure, it may delay me slightly but it's never a big deal. I just wish Colorado would make it a felony state. At least it might feel check points could make some progress instead of just being a fund raiser and restocking the pond.
    or just reclassify it to view it as what it truly is......attempted manslaughter. misuse of a deadly weapon in the form of a gun can get you a felony and prison time no matter what the story, but misuse of ones "right" to operate a potentially lethal piece of machinery with higher "kill" rates than any firearm is just a misdemeanor (most of the time) and just an accident? Not their fault they didn't realize it could kill someone, right? Of course it lacks the media sensationalism of a firearm, but hey.....if you want to get down to numbers automobiles are one of the big three, are they not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    They don't really bother me since I never drink and drive. Sure, it may delay me slightly but it's never a big deal. I just wish Colorado would make it a felony state. At least it might feel check points could make some progress instead of just being a fund raiser and restocking the pond.
    That's exactly what it is, the shop I work at, we have a guy that installs interlocks all day long......don't quote me on this but I think they charge $75 to have them calibrated each month, so on top of the fines that person pays, they're paying an additional $900 a year to the state.
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