Ideas and opinions needed

[Delfuego]

There must be about twenty thousand scopes out there to weed through.

I would look for MIL/MIL & First Focal Plane (FFP). Then figure out your budget, that should narrow it down to a handful. You should hit-up people to see them in person to get an idea of what you like. SWFA, PST, XTR II are some good options to begin with. Err on the side of more than you think you need...

[Spdu4ia]

Good advice

[ray1970]

I'm not even 100% sure about the FFP part yet. I can definitely see the advantages but having the reticle large at higher magnification and smaller at lower magnification may not be exactly what I want. Seems it would obscure smaller targets at longer ranges. But everyone that has one seems to love it.

[J]

Yeah, never found mine to be intrusive, even out to 1400 meters. And the ability to spot misses and make adjustments at any magnification is super nice to have.

[Hoser]

FFP is the way to go for sure.

However the whole MIL/MOA issue is almost silly. As long as your reticle matches your turret click values it really does not matter. Most everyone talks about wind values in 10mph. Half value wind is 5, full=10, double=20, ect.

I use MIL as it is easier for my brain to wrap around.

[J]

Yep. I'd base your MOA/MIL decision on what the people you will shoot with use. It's nice to be able to have a buddy spot for you and give you direct corrections without having to convert one system to another. On their own they both fundamentally do the same thing, and there really isn't much difference using them in practice

[XC700116]

I'm not even 100% sure about the FFP part yet. I can definitely see the advantages but having the reticle large at higher magnification and smaller at lower magnification may not be exactly what I want. Seems it would obscure smaller targets at longer ranges. But everyone that has one seems to love it.

If you ever think you'll need to be shooting on less than full power, go FFP so you don't have yet another math problem to sort through in your mind. The FFP reticles are sized the same as a sfp reticle at the highest magnification, so in reality what you see at full magnification is what you see through the full range of magnification on a SFP scope.

[Rooskibar03]

Jumping in on Rays thread some but there are eyes here and it beats starting a new thread.

Talk to me about scope rings. What in the world makes one pair worth 150-200 and another 20-40? I'm a firm believer in buy once cry once but is a set of Nightforce rings going to make that much of a difference?

[J]

Lol. I run Spuhr, so that's another jump too. The big thing for me I knowing that everything else is bullet proof, and if it starts shooting bad it's either too dirty or I'm screwing up. I don't want to have to track down potential problems of slipping rings, etc. The higher end rings will be more guaranteed to be concentric, and not have point contact to the scope, but full width contact around the entire circumference.

Plus the spuhr has several nice to have features too.

[Rooskibar03]

Lol. I run Spuhr, so that's anoanother jump too.

Oh my. I don't know if I can cry THAT much.