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    Ammocurious Rucker61's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    I love the infographic they use with their representation "gun deaths have been slightly trending upward". They may want to uh, Photoshop their graphic to match their bullshit.
    I'm really offended by the lack of effort they've put in their brainwashing campaign. Typical liberal, probably they best they could do working 1 1/2 hours a day while stoned out of their mind.
    Actually, they are correct. Looking at Cause of Death Statistics from WISQARS, years 2001 to 2012, the raw numbers of gun deaths have increased about 14% over that period, with a rate per 100,000 population increased at a smaller 2.5%. What they don't point out is that gun homicides have remained relatively flat over that period, and as the population increased, the rate of homicide per 100k declined by 4%.

    The increase is due entirely to the increase in suicides. Gun suicides increase by 22% over the period with a rate increase of 10%; so, the rate of gun homicides has increased by 10%. Non-gun suicides, however, have increased by 44% in numbers over the period with a growth rate of 30%. Looks like suicide is a suicide problem, not a gun problem. The US suicide rate, even though it has increased, still ranks that behind the gun free paradises of Japan, China, South Korea and Hong Kong and behind the overly civilized Western Europe countries of France, Switzerland, Germany, Belgium and all of the Scandinavian countries, according to www.suicide.org. Looks like more guns do make you safer, at least from suicide. When I get some time, I'll compare gun ownership rate to suicide rate to see how the different countries rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    The increase is due entirely to the increase in suicides....
    Actually you can just stop right there. ANY "gun death" statistics that include suicides are on their face dishonesty in service of creating false narratives to push gun control. Period.

    Gun laws have zero impact on suicides ... unless you believe that healthy, happy people are somehow manipulated into killing themselves by the mere presence of a firearm (or that guns whisper in peoples ears or some other such lunacy).
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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