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    Don't spill the beans on the lock box.

    Btw, which forum member has the key?

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    Just realize that the important Colorado law to get rid of is the BG check, not the magazine ban. That one should be a secondary concern. Every time I raise this point a bunch of you naysayers go on the attack about how I'm some conspiricy nut living a bunker. All I'm saying is we should be more worried about the possible problems brought about by the BG law. The mag ban is pretty impotent in comparison. Hell, everybody has mags that were "grandfathered" already, so no loss there, but a lot of people have gun safes full of totally legal inherited, and private bought firearms that no one knows about, and would like to keep them that way. That's all my point is. Enough said, I'm out.


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    You are absolutely right. A few of us here on the forum are part of the conspiracy. You've outed us. Game over. The database DOES exist. Now what shall we do???

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    Well known just look up the original documents when SS was proposed.

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    Source for any of the social security claims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    Well known just look up the original documents when SS was proposed.
    Please share them. You've been asking people for information in this thread and expecting them to go find it for you. Please return the favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Source for any of the social security claims?
    Best I could find.

    http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html

    Q21: When did Social Security cards bear the legend "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION"?

    A: The first Social Security cards were issued starting in 1936, they did not have this legend. Beginning with the sixth design version of the card, issued starting in 1946, SSA added a legend to the bottom of the card reading "FOR SOCIAL SECURITY PURPOSES -- NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION." This legend was removed as part of the design changes for the 18th version of the card, issued beginning in 1972. The legend has not been on any new cards issued since 1972.
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    A previous interim director of the ATF refused to answer the question regarding whether or not the ATF maintained a permanent database of firearm transactions, which included the last known owner of a firearm.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Also. MSR.

    I do get a little tired of these threads. Can we do a sticky with all the relevant information and just point to it when this inevitably comes up.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    My God. You truly are an Ostrich. I've asked for no one to look up any info. Everything I spoke about is well known, no research involved. I'm done. This is fruitless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Please share them. You've been asking people for information in this thread and expecting them to go find it for you. Please return the favor.

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    I agree greed with you the magazine ban is secondary to the bullshit BG/law or checks. Vehicles kill more people then guns and I don't need a BG to sell you my vehicle. It's propaganda BS. If I go to a gun store and purchase a gun from a business I don't have a problem doing a background if the business pays for it :-). Just my thoughts only. It's hard as hell for the magazine capacity to be enforced anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    Just realize that the important Colorado law to get rid of is the BG check, not the magazine ban. That one should be a secondary concern. Every time I raise this point a bunch of you naysayers go on the attack about how I'm some conspiricy nut living a bunker. All I'm saying is we should be more worried about the possible problems brought about by the BG law. The mag ban is pretty impotent in comparison. Hell, everybody has mags that were "grandfathered" already, so no loss there, but a lot of people have gun safes full of totally legal inherited, and private bought firearms that no one knows about, and would like to keep them that way. That's all my point is. Enough said, I'm out.




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    I have been trying to figure out the 'best' answer on the BGC's. I don't think any of us want to sell to a felon, terrorist, etc, which is the point of the law. That is where I do believe the 90% statistic commonly used. The problem stems from the registration that many (not all) feel is the real reason behind the BGC's. What needs to happen is that there is a way that a seller can check the staus of the buyer without the required SN. That could be (relatively) simply setup, I would think. Maybe something like a "Go-No Go" based on a drivers license number. There are going to be abuses of any system and I can think of a few with this one. The point is a full repeal.... Gonna be hard (not impossible). If there is a well thought out alternative it has a better chance to succeed.
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