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    Default Free community college!

    YAHOO! Better maintain that 2.0 GPA.

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    Oh man because a 2.0 is so hard

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    Obamaclaus!!

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    FREE! To a bunch of people whose only aspiration is "Do you want fries with that?"

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    The best part: No real answer how its going to be paid for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedysst View Post
    The best part: No real answer how its going to be paid for!
    But its FREE!! FREE!! /sarc

    Yah, who gets to pay? Anyone with a job gets to pay, just like those moron Harvard educrats found out.

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    Some snippets from a discussion I had on Facebook about this:

    What good is a nation full of people with meaningless or wasted college degrees? We will fall apart at the seams without the important and necessary jobs that don't require a college education.
    K-12 is designed to prepare everyone with a similar set of rudimentary skills that prepare them for their future path, whether it takes them to vocational school or med school.

    Furthermore, publicly funded school performance is quite dismal across the board when compared to privately funded education venues.
    I went to one of the most prestigious and expensive publicly-funded colleges in the country and I didn't receive half the education that my brother, who went to a small privately-funded college, did. Look at the top 100 colleges rated every year in every category. How many of them are publicly funded? The reason I brought up the public vs private performance is because it really is the essence of our discussion. The private sector always has, and always will do it more efficiently and more effectively than a bureaucracy - which is exactly why higher education should never be publicly funded. (An argument can certainly be made that no education should be publicly funded, but I won't get into that here).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Some snippets from a discussion I had on Facebook about this:

    What good is a nation full of people with meaningless or wasted college degrees? We will fall apart at the seams without the important and necessary jobs that don't require a college education.
    K-12 is designed to prepare everyone with a similar set of rudimentary skills that prepare them for their future path, whether it takes them to vocational school or med school.

    Furthermore, publicly funded school performance is quite dismal across the board when compared to privately funded education venues.
    I went to one of the most prestigious and expensive publicly-funded colleges in the country and I didn't receive half the education that my brother, who went to a small privately-funded college, did. Look at the top 100 colleges rated every year in every category. How many of them are publicly funded? The reason I brought up the public vs private performance is because it really is the essence of our discussion. The private sector always has, and always will do it more efficiently and more effectively than a bureaucracy - which is exactly why higher education should never be publicly funded. (An argument can certainly be made that no education should be publicly funded, but I won't get into that here).
    Those are good points about private institutions, but I don't think the goal here is to advance anyone, just keeping pace with the decline.

    High School is nothing more than young adult child care at this point. So there has to be something to fill the gap and make future taxpayers seem employable.

    Between this and min wage, they are creating some interesting new morality... My wife worked her tail off with an associates in a demanding field. Her starting pay was somewhere around $14/hour--this was not long ago. Of course with her hard work she made a lot more and landed a better job (less hours/stress).

    Where is the incentive to work your way up (like many of us have/do) when everything is handed to you?

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    Skilled labor will soon be higher paid than almost all "degree required" professions except attorneys. Attorneys make the rules, so that will always be a golden occupation.

    2 years in the .mil or peace corps, or...nah, that would just ruin what is left of those. There are no solutions left to the problems that are tasteful to the populace, so there will never be improvement as long as the sheep and liberals outnumber those who actually produce a portion of the GDP.
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    I see the POTUS pointing over there and saying "look, shiny".

    Perhaps I'm ignorant but what jobs are these proposed AA/AS degree holders supposed to fill?

    Or is this a means to pay for a Bachelors at half the price?

    If that's the case, what jobs are these proposed BA/BS degree holders supposed to fill?

    I'm sorry, I see this a supply/demand issue. We hear of and see articles all the time about new graduates with XYZ degree with (insert number here) of college debt living in the mommy's and daddy's basement.

    I also agree with MarkCO & cstone. From of my perspective in the MEP construction in the industrial/manufacturing markets (in two areas of the US now), there are very, very few sub-30 year old tradesman either working in, or on, these two markets (which here in NC/SC are booming), and there are openings that simply cannot be filled. As these jobs start off well above a service industry job, this leads me to two conclusions; somehow people have forgotten you have to start somewhere (IE: don't expect to be paid like the top dog if you are new to the trade), and many people, especially millennials, simply do not want to do physical work (generalizations of course). I think Mike Rowe has hit this topic well, so I'll leave it at that.

    IMO, the POTUS is better off actually defining the term "work" to the zombies and to help in creating the atmosphere for job creation in the US. Instead, we will have another blow to our nation's debt and an even greater sense of entitlement to the masses.
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