Free community college!

[cstone]

As MarkCO pointed out, many skilled trades already pay better than most degree fields. Add to this, most college graduates are carrying tens of thousands in debt into their first job. Contrast that with people who are paid a good wage to complete an apprenticeship in most skilled trades which leads to a good paying job.

Teenager as an age group is an invention of early 20th century America. I am dismayed by the prolonged childhood so many potentially productive human beings are being subjected to in our nation. While there is no need to put a child to work in a factory at the age of 12, the concept that we are seriously talking about adding grades 13 and 14 to the public school system is just ludicrous IMO.

My hope is that this is a ploy by the President to develop another issue to use against Republicans to show how heartless and uncaring they are by not taking care of the children...yes, the 18, 19, and 20 year old children.

I apologize to the many responsible and mature 16+ year olds who are working for what they want their future to be. They are obviously not the children the President is appealing to with this proposition.

[brutal]

As MarkCO pointed out, many skilled trades already pay better than most degree fields. Add to this, most college graduates are carrying tens of thousands in debt into their first job. Contrast that with people who are paid a good wage to complete an apprenticeship in most skilled trades which leads to a good paying job.

Teenager as an age group is an invention of early 20th century America. I am dismayed by the prolonged childhood so many potentially productive human beings are being subjected to in our nation. While there is no need to put a child to work in a factory at the age of 12, the concept that we are seriously talking about adding grades 13 and 14 to the public school system is just ludicrous IMO.

My hope is that this is a ploy by the President to develop another issue to use against Republicans to show how heartless and uncaring they are by not taking care of the children...yes, the 18, 19, and 20 year old children.

I apologize to the many responsible and mature 16+ year olds who are working for what they want their future to be. They are obviously not the children the President is appealing to with this proposition.

That should be grades E1 E2 E3 E4 for those two years after High School.

[Ridge]

As long as it's only for STEM degrees, I think this is great.

[GilpinGuy]

Can this be a way to ease the looming student loan debt bomb that's primed to go off? Just tax productive citizens EVEN MORE and give it away and loan debt doesn't balloon as fast.

[Ridge]

The student loan debt bomb is a firecracker. The vast majority of student loans are already guaranteed by the government.

[cstone]

IMO, student loans should be provided based on the graduates ability to repay the loan. You want a degree in Italian Romantic Literature of the 16th Century? Not much chance you are getting a loan for that.

College loans are another way of subsidizing the Academic/Progressive Industry. Maybe some of the adjunct faculty at the local community college could actually teach high school subjects. They seem to be doing that now, since most high school graduates don't graduate with competency to learn at the college level. Here is a link to a NY Times article relating the "Myth of a Four Year College Education."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/ed...inds.html?_r=0

[Ridge]

IMO, student loans should be provided based on the graduates ability to repay the loan. You want a degree in Italian Romantic Literature of the 16th Century? Not much chance you are getting a loan for that.

College loans are another way of subsidizing the Academic/Progressive Industry. Maybe some of the adjunct faculty at the local community college could actually teach high school subjects. They seem to be doing that now, since most high school graduates don't graduate with competency to learn at the college level. Here is a link to a NY Times article relating the "Myth of a Four Year College Education."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/ed...inds.html?_r=0

That only ensures the rich go to college. The poor can't, keeping them poor. Student loans should be provided based in how useful the degree will be for society.

[cstone]

That only ensures the rich go to college. The poor can't, keeping them poor. Student loans should be provided based in how useful the degree will be for society.

For students who are prepared and motivated, we have scholarships and grants. Rich kids will alway have their parents to pay for school. I don't believe the taxpayers should be paying for educations for poor kids who have little ability to succeed based on their mediocre performance in the first twelve years of their mediocre, tax payer funded, public school education.

You want a free or low cost education, enlist in the military, or get a job and pay for it.

Education is just one more area where I believe we have proven that pumping more money into the system does not lead to better results.

[HoneyBadger]

For students who are prepared and motivated, we have scholarships and grants. Rich kids will alway have their parents to pay for school. I don't believe the taxpayers should be paying for educations for poor kids who have little ability to succeed based on their mediocre performance in the first twelve years of their mediocre, tax payer funded, public school education.

You want a free or low cost education, enlist in the military, or get a job and pay for it.

Education is just one more area where I believe we have proven that pumping more money into the system does not lead to better results.

Again and again, privately-funded colleges and universities are head and shoulders above even the best publicly-funded schools.

[HoneyBadger]

That only ensures the rich go to college. The poor can't, keeping them poor. Student loans should be provided based in how useful the degree will be for society.

As already mentioned and demonstrated by many on this board: A college education does not guarantee wages. There are many jobs that do not require a college degree which make substantially more than the mean income of a college graduate.

Get rid of your liberal talking point drivel and bring something of value to this discussion.