Free community college!

[Aloha_Shooter]

Hmmm ... yay, more taxpayer-paid positions for leftists to brainwash our "children".

[TFOGGER]

Here's my problem with all this "give everyone a degree" bullshit: Aside from the costs involved(which would be ridiculous), and the fact that students don't tend to value the opportunities afforded them unless they have to pay for them(High school), if everyone has a 2 year degree, then what value does it convey? How does that better prepare them to contribute to society in any valuable way? It's the adult equivalent of a "Participation Ribbon", or more bluntly, a Medal from the Special Olympics. Fuck that.

[Irving]

Well, if you actually do the work, we can't really say that it is just a participation ribbon. That said, the first two years of college is just two more years of high school courses anyway. So if you weren't ready for real life at the end of high school, I don't think that two more years of required credits is going to change much.

I hear that tech schools are becoming more and more popular.

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[hollohas]

I didn't read the thread yet so I don't know what all your opinions are, but something dawned on me regarding this entire free college announcement. I actually think it's more than just another socialist agenda.

So the plan is for the Feds to pay 75% and the states to pay 25%. Thats the key to this whole thing. If the feds were to pay 100%, I wouldnt think what I'm about to write. But since he just signed up the states as part if his plan, I think there's more to the story.

What happens in the states that decide they don't want to participate in this program? That don't want to pay the 25%? Those will most likely be conservative states, right? Well, they'll say "no thanks" and the Dems will attack. The liberal media headline will be "Conservative state majority refuses to give kids a college education". Kids all over those states that refuse will be targeted by liberals, told their futures are being ruined by the republicans, protests will be held and young adults will hit the polls to vote the Republicans out.

This is not a socialist agenda...it's a liberal setup. They promised something that if the republicans refuse, it will give them major firepower to attack republicans. "Haha Repubs, ball's in your court now. You gonna tell all the kids they can't go to college."

This is BS and young adults will fall for it. They won't care that the country can't afford it. My prediction is that conservatives take the heat for this one...smart move by bama.

[hollohas]

Also, this just serves to delay young adults from becoming full adults even more. First, give them mommy and daddy's health insurance until 25. Then, give them free college. Heck, they won't have to work until long after they become adults.

In 1999 80% of 16-17 year olds were part of the US labor force. By 2012, only 60% were. That's not a good trend. Meanwhile, the recent grad labor participation rate is declining too. At the same time, the labor participation rate for 55 and older is increasing. If a college education with modern teachings was what opened the door to jobs, recent grads would be getting more and older folks would be getting less. Not the other way around like it is now.

It's not college that's gets people jobs...it's experience and motivation, something this country no longer encourages our youth to develop.

[brutal]

Also, this just serves to delay young adults from becoming full adults even more. First, give them mommy and daddy's health insurance until 25 26 . Then, give them free college. Heck, they won't have to work until long after they become adults.

In 1999 80% of 16-17 year olds were part of the US labor force. By 2012, only 60% were. That's not a good trend. Meanwhile, the recent grad labor participation rate is declining too. At the same time, the labor participation rate for 55 and older is increasing. If a college education with modern teachings was what opened the door to jobs, recent grads would be getting more and older folks would be getting less. Not the other way around like it is now.

It's not college that's gets people jobs...it's experience and motivation, something this country no longer encourages our youth to develop.

FIFY.

[GilpinGuy]

Here's a good take on this. Forward to 0:32:50 (audio only).

http://www.survivalpodcast.net/audio...ck-1-12-15.mp3