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    I've been looking at getting into the suppressor game and I like to get some opinions on these cans from those who have them:

    AAC M4-2000 - this seems to be the perfect suppressor for ARs. Any gotchas other than the price? Does the AAC fast attach ratchet mount work as well as the reviews and videos seem to indicate?

    Gemtech HALO - I'm mostly drawn to this because it attaches to a standard A2 flash hider. Therefore I don't have to buy suppressor mounts for every AR I own. However it seems this attachment method is a bit clunky and the HALO is heavy (21 oz). I was considering this as the can I'd use on ARs I couldn't mount the M4-2000 to. Is that a good strategy or should I just bite the bullet and buy AAC 51T flash hiders for all my ARs and stick solely with the M4-2000?

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    Really depends on the overall uses you plan, SBR, high rate of fire, precision work etc. depending on those items it can help narrow things down a bit/open or close doors to other options. I'm personally not a huge fan of AAC's mounting system vs some of the others like surefire, Griffin, and Thunderbeast, but my priorities may be drastically different from yours (accuracy gets first priority for me) This also makes the Halo a no go for me and as you mentioned it's a heavy mofo.

    I'm also in the research phase of getting a 556 can and have all but settled on a TBAC 223 CB or a Surefire socom for my purposes.

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    My primary goal now is simple noise reduction. I'll use them on SBRs and 16in rifles. Normal semi-auto rate of fire, nothing full auto.

    However I am also looking to buy a high quality suppressor that will have the greatest feature set to address future needs. I want to have all my Form 4's and Form 1's submitted before the possible ATF rule change requiring CLEO sign off on trusts. Since I live in Arapahoe County, getting a CLEO to sign off on anything is impossible. If the rule change happens, I probably won't be buying NFA regulated stuff for a long time. I might as well over-buy (capability wise) now while I still can. It's better to have features I won't use than being stuck with something that falls short, and I can't buy what I need because some anti-2A CLEO won't sign off.

    What features make you like the TBAC 223 CB or Surefire socom over the M4-2000? I am a can newb so there's a lot of things I haven't considered when it comes to features because I don't know what to look for. All my "knowledge" is coming from reading web sites and watching videos.
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    I am also looking into a 5.56 can. It was pointed out to me that the AACs may require the removal of the forend to attach and remove. Depending on your clearance and barrel to forend lengths because of the lever. My pistol (future SBR) setup has me looking at silencerco now. I bought a Pilot2 and will use the AAC damn the man credit for a muzzle device from them. Silencerco makes mounts that work with AAC's muzzle brakes.
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    I own both the AAC M-4 & Halo. while heavier i'd suggest the Halo over the AAC. The weight while noticeable is negligible once you start shooting regarding the felt recoil & reduced muzzle jump. The TBA IMO is one of the pinnacles of sound suppression.
    If the OP or anyone else would like to compare an AAC - Halo touch bases, don't forget the ammo.
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    M4-2000 for normal SBR use. All of my SBR's are 51T mounts and I have never had a problem, and they have been run very very hard on occasion. The other thing you may want to consider is a .30 cal can - something like a Saker or a SDN, gives you a little more multi-use capability without that much of a degradation in sound loss.

    TBAC for precision work - without question. I love mine and so does everyone else who has one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    I own both the AAC M-4 & Halo. while heavier i'd suggest the Halo over the AAC. The weight while noticeable is negligible once you start shooting regarding the felt recoil & reduced muzzle jump. The TBA IMO is one of the pinnacles of sound suppression.
    If the OP or anyone else would like to compare an AAC - Halo touch bases, don't forget the ammo.
    Why do you like the Halo over the M-4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    M4-2000 for normal SBR use. All of my SBR's are 51T mounts and I have never had a problem, and they have been run very very hard on occasion. The other thing you may want to consider is a .30 cal can - something like a Saker or a SDN, gives you a little more multi-use capability without that much of a degradation in sound loss.

    TBAC for precision work - without question. I love mine and so does everyone else who has one.
    I'll have to research TBAC. I think I discounted them because they seemed to be geared towards direct attached applications and I was looking for QD. As for the .30 cal can, I'll be getting one of those too. In the end I plan to have .22lr, .223/5.56, .30cal and 9mm cans. I toyed with the idea of a .45 as well but I don't shoot that enough to warrant investing in a can for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    Why do you like the Halo over the M-4?
    IMO it's a better produced can, quieter and utilizes (for me) A1 flash hiders. I went with A1 over A2 for a few reasons. #1 i had a pile of them, #2 GT suggest not using a crush washer behind your F/Hider. Which may be needed on an A2 for it to clock right. It's an easier mounting system AND more cost effective. Is it heavier, yes.

    Regarding you going with a 9 over 45 because you don't shoot it enough to invest in one. Buy the 45 and use it on your 9. Once you get the 9 you'll wonder why you didn't go with the 45 . You'll also see more use with the 45. I went with a 45 over a 9 since i wanted to suppress my 357 lever. After that i ended up with a 45 because... i had a 45 can. I don't care for 45 as a caliber, go figure.

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    WARNING - DO NOT USE A CRUSH WASHER WHEN MOUNTING GEMTECH SUPPRESSORS
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