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    I have worked in a Women's shelter and a friend runs one of the Denver non-profits that helps women that are in abusive relationships. I can tell you from numbers and firsthand that it is real. The Superbowl in general, DUI accidents are higher that day, by 50-60% than other weekend days...in some areas, and not always linked to the hometowns.

    Emotional involvement, alcohol and a man who is prone to abuse anyway, yeah that is a recipe for an abuse occurrence, or a trigger. I agree that there is no data to support that fact that otherwise non-abusive men suddenly become enraged and knock around their SO due to a football game. But the data that you are looking at excludes habitual abusers and only looks at first time offenders, that is how the original study by the NFL was commissioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    I have worked in a Women's shelter and a friend runs one of the Denver non-profits that helps women that are in abusive relationships. I can tell you from numbers and firsthand that it is real. The Superbowl in general, DUI accidents are higher that day, by 50-60% than other weekend days...in some areas, and not always linked to the hometowns.

    Emotional involvement, alcohol and a man who is prone to abuse anyway, yeah that is a recipe for an abuse occurrence, or a trigger. I agree that there is no data to support that fact that otherwise non-abusive men suddenly become enraged and knock around their SO due to a football game. But the data that you are looking at excludes habitual abusers and only looks at first time offenders, that is how the original study by the NFL was commissioned.
    Are you suggesting that football, pro sports, or specific things on television somehow increase the incidents of domestic violence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Are you suggesting that football, pro sports, or specific things on television somehow increase the incidents of domestic violence?
    Not that they increase the total number (that would be an interesting study, but with no controls, not possible), but that they are certainly triggers for incidents for persons already predisposed to violence. Not that it would not happen anyway with a specific set of people, but that the lack of self-control is more likely to occur around trigger events, Pro sports being only one such trigger. A bad day at work can be a trigger.

    I would not ascribe any "trigger" as the creator of domestic violence per se. Reading my first post, it was a bit misleading, and I apologize for that, but I think I have clarified what I mean since.
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    But the data that you are looking at excludes habitual abusers and only looks at first time offenders, that is how the original study by the NFL was commissioned.
    I Googled "NFL study domestic violence super bowl" and found no such study on the first 3 pages. I'd like to read it if you have a link handy.

    I have no doubt that some douchebags might go ape and abuse their SO on game day. I just dismiss the suggestion that there is a giant increase, like we hear proclaimed year after year after year, even though it has been debunked year after year after year. A marginal increase? Sure. Just like there is on New Years Eve, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, etc. Holidays (and big sporting events) lead to people drinking, and, therefore, shitty behavior. I don't hear anyone suggesting it's dumb to celebrate Independence Day. But sports fans are demonized every year, and it's always from the feminist types who think we're all violent brutes who pound our chests when our team wins and pound our women when they lose. Please.....I'm tired of that shit. Beating a woman on Labor Day or on Super Bowl Sunday is the same despicable act.

    Here's some interesting stuff from HERE that is no surprise and supports your DUI argument (and I never questioned BTW):
    What about other behaviors surrounding Super Bowl Sunday, like driving fatalities? On Super Bowl Sundays, compared to non-Super Bowl Sundays, Redelmeier & Stewart (2003) found a 41% relative increase in the average number of fatalities after the telecast on Super Bowl Sunday.
    This shouldn't be breaking news for anyone. Any holiday invites drinking, as do HUGE sporting events. Sadly, there is no solution to this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    Sadly, there is no solution to this problem.
    Sure there is, just ban all drinking on game day! /ducksandhides

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    Wow. This thread took a turn to the dark side .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duman View Post
    Wow. This thread took a turn to the dark side .....
    No kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duman View Post
    Wow. This thread took a turn to the dark side .....
    If it had just stayed on track like it was told it wouldn't have a dark side. Now it'll have to wear sunglasses to church on Sunday.

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    I am also interested in where FOX and M. SHANAHAN will go.

    One in 10mil, but it would be fun (and funny) to see Mike Shanahan coming back to Denver. It may happen if majority of players wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    I am also interested in where FOX and M. SHANAHAN will go.

    One in 10mil, but it would be fun (and funny) to see Mike Shanahan coming back to Denver. It may happen if majority of players wants.
    John Fox is headed to Chicago. The future is bright.

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