My take on the difference of Rep/Dem

[GunTroll]

Not telling you anything new but I recently had these two experiences....

I was visiting my aunt in AZ and she went on to tell me how she made a milestone of breaking the 100k income. Great I tell her. She then ask me my political standings and I avoided this conversation the best I could. She knows my firearm background and figured I went McCain. She was right. She and my mother have never voted for a president in their lives (50+ years now) but voted out of emotion this last go around. She then ask "don't you want your mother and I to have health care provided for us?" (they don't have any currently) This infuriated me! She has the audacity to make a 100k and think we the taxpayer should pay for her health care. My take.....Dems have a sense of entitlement and want something for nothing. I only made 60+k and paid for my whole family's health care and the rest of our bills/debts. Dems!!

Other story....
I help my wife with her business down at Cherry Creek farmers market on Saturdays. We sell coffee if you want to know. We have been getting asked about recycling a lot lately. The market management doesn't offer recycling. When we approached them to ask why they don't offer the recycling service they leaned in and said "the mall owners want to charge for the recycling service/bins". Sounds fair. They then lean in further and say "its because they are Republicans"! This guy is lucky he didn't say this to me. He said it to my wife. So again my take.....The business owners (assumable Republican) wont give a service away for free. That's good business plain and simple. The Market owners/management (A fact to be Dem and far left at that) want something for free and wont pay for it even if it lines up in their beliefs of being the party that is leading the way to save the world from "Global warming" etc.

That is the bottom line, fundamental deference of the two IMHO. Wont give something away for nothing (a profit loss and stupid/expensive) vs. Wanting everything for free because they are entitled (not coming out of their own pocket but, will take out of yours and mine).

Sorry for the lengthy rant. Just had to pass it along and move on. This shit just gets to me everyday! And sorry you third party people out there. I haven't got a take on your beliefs with my experiences.

[Tristan]

100%. That is a fundamental difference between the two. That and in a republic, we are governed by law, whereas in a democracy, we are governed by "mob rule". I find it both sad and ironic that the people who would fight have let the people who would never fight take control of the country.

[ChunkyMonkey]

+1 in one of our monday meeting. I had the opportunity to explain the difference between a republic and a democracy system. We were voting for 'what to eat for lunch ;' Nonetheless, I liked the fact that some of us are now have better understanding!

[Pancho Villa]

The GOP supports social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare, free medical care for anyone who runs into an emergency room, the prescrioption drug benefit plan, high taxes (though not as high as Democrats,) the continued existence of socialized medicine for Veterans (its not good enough for civvies, but perfect for people who we allegedly want to take care of,) subsidies to farmers, subsidies to "American" industry, depending on the Republican they may or may not support other protectionist economic policies...

I just scratched the surface.

The difference between the GOP and the Democratic party - rhetoric aside, and practically speaking - is that the GOP agrees that the Democratic party has its heart in the right place, but we should become socialist/fascist a little slower than what the Democrats want.

Many conservatives, despite my deep disagreements with them (particularly on religion,) I can agree with to some extent. I have no admiration for the Republican party. So long as men enshrine the idea that the moral ideal is service to others, rather than the right of each individual to their life, liberty and pursuit of their own happiness - we'll continue on this road, where the Dems sprint forward and the GOP tiptoes behind them.

My favorite example was during the latest campaign, Obama blasted oil companies for being "selfish" for making all those profits, McCain ran ads saying how making profits are not, in fact, selfish. Give me a break. Its completely selfish, and that is a good thing, not a bad thing.

[GunTroll]

Pancho, would you consider yourself a capitalist? Do you own/run your own business? Do you want to?

Third parties unfortunately are a joke in this two party system so they can't be included in this debate between REP/DEM

Everyone knows Republicans aren't the answer to all the problems. And on that note everyone knows the Dems are the undermining force behind removing capitalist ideals. Hence there watered down version and desire to move us into a more socialist state. AND THEY ARE BY THE WAY!

This is more a debate of Capitalist vs. Socialist

[GunTroll]

Also Pancho, I will concede that the Republicans are in there own way are very evil and very flawed. Its about getting votes when it comes down to it. Making promises and enticing different classes and or ethnic backgrounds is a card used by both parties. IE all the "free" stuff you mentioned above from the Republicans. You are correct in a way.

[10x]

Think about this as well. Most of the educational institutions are liberal (democratic). The students are taught or conditioned that the Government needs to solve "the" problem. Those students will become our leaders in the future. This attitude is becoming pervasive.

I think the country was a lot more productive and prosperous when we, as individuals, solved our own problems, did not have and entitlement complex and kept the government out of things as much as possible.

[Jumpstart]

SPELLING BEE CHAMP

My name be Eboneesha Li Herenandez, an African Hispanic Asiatic-American
Girl who just got an award for being the bess speler in class. I got 67% on
the speling test and 30 points for being black, 5 points for not bringin
drugs into class, 5 points for not bringin guns into class, and 5 points for
not gettin pregnut during the cemester. It be hard to beat a score of 120%.


White dude who sit nex to me is McGee from Ocala . He got a 94% on the test
but no extra points on acount of he have the same skin color as the
opressirs of 150 years ago. Granny ax me to thank all Dimocrafts and
Liberuls for suportin Afermative action. You be showin da way to true
eqwallity. I be gittin in medical skool nex an mabe I be yo doctor when
Barrac take over da healtcare in dis cuntry

[Jumpstart]

A beautiful fairy appeared one day to a destitute refugee outside a Maryland
immigration office.

'Good man,' the fairy said, 'I've been sent here byPresident Obama and told
to grant you three wishes, since you just arrived in the United States with
your wife and three children.'
The man told the fairy. 'Well, where I come from we don't have good teeth,
so I want new teeth, maybe a lot of gold in them.'
The fairy looked at the man's almost toothless grin and *PING * he had a
brand new shining set of gold teeth in his mouth!
'What else?' asked the fairy, 'two more to go.'

The refugee claimant now got bolder. 'I need a big house with a three car
garage in Annapolis on the water with eight bedrooms for my family and the
rest of my relatives who still live in my country. I want to bring them all
over here . .' and *PING * in the distance there could be seen a beautiful
mansion with a three car garage, a long driveway, a walkout patio with a BBQ
in an upscale neighborhood overlooking the bay.

'One more wish', said the fairy, waving her wand. 'Yes, one more wish. I
want to be like an American with American clothes instead of these torn
clothes, and a baseball cap instead of this turban. And
I want to have white skin like Americans. . .' and *PING * The man was
transformed, wearing worn out jeans, a Baltimore Orioles T-shirt and a
baseball cap. He had his bad teeth back and the mansion had disappeared
from the horizon.

'What happened to my new teeth?' he wailed. 'Where is my new house?'


THIS IS GOOD . . . . . .

NO, ACTUALLY THIS IS VERY GOOD . . . . . . . .


The fairy said 'Tough shit, Mac, Now that you are a White American, you
have to fend for yourself

[jim02]

GunTroll you are exactly correct. Dems want something for free and they feel entitled to others hard work.
Unfortunetly I came to this same conclusion about 9 months ago when some of my Dem friends said the same type stuff to me around election season.
One even told me how the gov needs to tax ammo out of existance and take all weapons from people, people need the government to control them.
I let them know that when they come for me, I will kill them and I will come kill you, you are an enemy of our nation. they Quicky changed the subject.
Come get some you socialist, commie, facist scum this is one Patriot that is not backing down.