Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
Grandma with a 3.5" rifled 12ga slug in a lightweight shotgun just seems like a terrible idea... Great way to cause real injury. I would hope that you don't want to actually hurt her.

yeah not going anywhere near shotguns.. my only thought was like I said earlier... maybe the 1911.. something in that real. I've got some full frame 9mm guns too that might work..