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    Default The Official POTUS Candidate Discussion Thread: 2016

    It's hilarious looking at all the "polls" that have Bush or Christie leading, then when Drudge hosts a poll, the two of them combined have less than 6% of the total vote. In that same Drudge poll, guys like Cruz and Paul are way ahead with 13.8 and 12.6% respectively, but the media is outright ignoring them.

    In this latest poll on Drudge, Scott Walker got almost 50% of the vote (I'm guessing this huge disparity is likely due to good organization of his internet base to go "vote" on Drudge's site... two weeks ago he had less than 5% in any poll). In any case, I've been hearing more about Walker lately... What does the gun community in general think of him?
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    I haven't seen anything on Walker specific to guns but I want the most conservative candidate that can win the general election. Holding rigidly to abstract principles only to let the Democrats lie, cheat, and steal their way to electoral victories has hurt us tremendously. Walker has already shown that he can win over the middle ground while holding pretty conservative positions even in a fairly liberal state and done it repeatedly. His candidacy and the recall attempt drained millions from the coffers of the Communists Socialists evil minions AFL-CIO and teachers' unions. For that reason alone, I'm willing to seriously consider him for the GOP nomination.

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    Too bad we can't get someone like Trey Gowdy to consider a run. I think a lot of people on both sides would be refreshed by his no bullshit approach. Realistically, I think Walker has a shot in the general election. Dunno what his 2A stance is in general, but he signed CCW legislation into law in WI, after about a billion years of that state denying the right to self defense.
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    I told ya so! The media will push Bush and Christie on us and ignore the rest. We can't let the traitorous media make our choices, we have to be vocal and make OUR voices heard.


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    1. Gov. Scott Walker – a favorite right now
    2. Sen. Ted Cruz – as a senator, his chances decrease. Love the guy, perhaps a VP?
    3. Gov. Rick Perry – we’ll have to see if he runs a better campaign this time
    4. Sen. Rick Santorum – longshot. Establishment GOP still mad he stuck in the race against Romney so long. Would need early money and early wins.
    5. Gov. Susana Martinez
    6. Gov. Mike Pence would be a strong candidate
    7. Gov. John Kasich would be a good president, but perhaps not a great candidate.
    8. Rep. Trey Gowdy would be awesome. The GOP seems to have assigned him, however, to the role of Hillary smasher this time around.
    9. Sen. Marco Rubio could be a good candidate, but another senator and they usually don’t get far.
    10. Gov. Sarah Palin would be a good leader, not sure she wants to go through all of this again. She should announce early that she is not running to get rid of any rumors and release money that would have gone to her so it can help others.
    11. Rep. Paul Ryannot running. A good choice.
    12. Gov. Bobby Jindal should stay in the mix for now
    13. Gov. Nikki Haley could be a good candidate.
    14. Gov. Jeb Bush – This is the Karl Rove-Bush wing of the party that wants to join with democrats to destroy the Tea Party Conservatives. The last thing we need is another Bush… or another Clinton! He should drop out.
    15. Sen. Rand Paul – His candidacy will not succeed. He says some things right and other things make it sound like he is an alien. He could leave now.
    16. Dr. Benjamin Carson – This one will make some of my conservative pals mad. However, a big beef with Obama was that he had no experience doing anything. While Carson has plenty of brilliant medical experience, he has no experience in governing. We have seen the things that can go wrong with an inexperienced candidate and I’m just not sure the time is now for Dr. Carson. A good VP perhaps. He could announce he is willing to be the VP for a strong Conservative American candidate.
    17. Sen. Kelly Ayotte – Probably not much chance. Not sure she needs to make an announcement.
    18. Gov. Mary Fallin – A female Governor to challenge Hillary. From a strong Conservative state. It would be okay for her to run.
    19. Gov. Mitt Romney not running. Thank you!
    20. Gov. Sam Brownback
    21. Rep. Peter King
    22. Rep. J.C. Watts won’t be running, a good VP choice?
    23. Lt. Col. & Rep. Allen West won’t be running, a good VP choice?
    24. Donald Trump – he should skip the whole thing where he wastes our time pretending he might run if no one better shows up. He could stay out this time.
    25. Gov Bob McDonnel may wish to run. Would likely not get far.
    26. Gov Jan Brewer may have some ambition, but likely will not get far.
    27. Sen Tim Scott – another senator with the stats against him.
    28. Sen John Thune – (see Tim Scott)
    29. Rep. Michele Bachmann won’t run and doesn’t want her husband trashed again by the lamestream press.
    30. Rep. Newt Gingrich Please God, have Newt stay out of the race.
    31. Gov. Mike Huckabee He wants it so bad. No one wants a guitar playing pretend-conservative. He should have kept his show on Fox. Also his health can’t be good with all of the weight he has put on. He should leave now.
    32. Gov. Chris Christie is a democrat in the eyes of Conservative Americans. He would be John McCain with a foul mouth. He will run. He should not run. We won’t win if Christie gets the nom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I haven't seen anything on Walker specific to guns...
    Only two entries for him on On The Issues vis a vis the 2A, but they're both pro gun so far. http://www.ontheissues.org/Scott_Walker.htm

    So far so good for him ... whether he can win or not it's really too early to tell but he does have a positive track record. We shall see how he does.

    As for guys like Cruz, Paul or Goudy ... honestly I'd rather we not have to drain our legislator talent to run for pres ... would rather see those guys keep fighting the good fight (honestly can you imagine what the world would look like with Cruz as Senate Majority Leader instead of President?).
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    Well, Rand is done...
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elec...orders-n298821

    He says that parents should have some amount of freedom when it comes to vaccinating their children, (freedom is good, right?) and then he says:
    I have heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines

    Coming from a medical doctor? "Cases" indicates that he really believes them to be factual. Either way, political suicide.
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    Walker has held elected office since his early 20s. Not really what I'm looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Only two entries for him on On The Issues vis a vis the 2A, but they're both pro gun so far. http://www.ontheissues.org/Scott_Walker.htm

    So far so good for him ... whether he can win or not it's really too early to tell but he does have a positive track record. We shall see how he does.
    Honestly, after reading this, my view of Walker is pretty favorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Jeebus ... and I though his dad was a nutter.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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