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    Try a few different types of ammo. Your rifle may like some a lot more than others. Don't over adjust and chase your zero, shoot 3-5 "then" adjust your optic. Also as you barrel breaks-in your groups/zero may change a little also.
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    The SparcII has a 2 MOA dot meaning it covers about 2" at 100 yards. I'd say an average shooter with the proper adjustment of the focus and a good cheek weld is going to shoot a 4-6" group with that at 100 yards, so don't get too worried. With practice, you should be able to get that to 2" or less with good ammo.

    However, you did not mention what ammo you are shooting. I have some factory ammo that groups about 4" with a 10x optic, but I shoot my 69 Noslers from the same gun and the 5 shot groups are under 1/2" (100 yards).
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    Hi Iain, one thing you can try that I've found works really well for sighting in Aimpoints and EOTechs. Take some blue painted tape, 1 inch wide and 8 inches long, and make a V on the target. Turn the brightness of the dot down a bit so you are getting as little flare off the dot and it looks as round as possible. Put that dot on the very tip of the V so that it just barely touched the sharp point. If you're having trouble seeing the lines of the tape just double them up to make them thicker, everyone's eyes are different after all. Now, do 10 slow and gentle presses of the trigger in dry practice. Really relax into it, the action of pressing the trigger should feel like sand running out of an hour glass. Then load the rifle up and do the same. Shoot 5 slow gentle shots taking as much time as you need for each shot to feel natural and relaxed. Check the target via walk down or spotting scope and see what you have. Make your adjustments and repeat.

    Reason I like the big V for red dots is just what you mentioned, circle targets can get covered up by dots, which can make keeping alignment a pain. With the V you're not covering anything, just keeping one shape touching another. Let us know how it turns out!
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    That's why I like the diamond targets I linked to before... you can always use the bottom tip for a "lollipop" sight picture, but with crosshairs, it's really easy to uh... quadrasect.

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    That's a good idea, thanks, DCF Guns! I was not having TOO much trouble putting the dot in the hole, but it'd be easier to >O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Steve View Post
    That's why I like the diamond targets I linked to before... you can always use the bottom tip for a "lollipop" sight picture, but with crosshairs, it's really easy to uh... quadrasect.
    duh - yeah, I got some of those, too. I like them, five targets in one, but was not clever enough to use the tip of a diamond.

    This place is really helpful. Thanks!


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    Optics are just one piece of the puzzle. Same w ammo. I learned trigger control I a mayor player at 50yds and beyond. I tightened my 100yd groups by a LOT by switching to a high end trigger. To really get a true zero, clamp the gun in a sled. Blucore will let you use theirs free of charge. Use a 10 rd mag or hand load the rounds into the chamber. 30 and 20 rnd mags bottom out on the bench. The sled will eliminate any gun movement and get the optic zerod to the gun. Then It's up to you to do your work on hold, cheek weld, etc as you now know the zero is true.
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    Accuracy is being close to the point of aim with each round fired. IE: you can hit a man-sized target from 200 yards. Rounds may hit the throat, chest, or stomach.

    Precision is putting rounds in a consistent area with minimal deviation. IE: you can hit a specific area at will. Rounds will consistently hit between the nipples.

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    Check out this article: G&A Basics: How to Zero a Rifle in Five Steps, by Craig Boddington

    Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/home-feat...#ixzz3RSzwxeDU



    There was another one page article in the print edition that discussed gun testing, using bags, and getting it to where there is no movement in the rifle.

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