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    From: The Journal of Advanced Practice Nursing

    Flu results in "about 250,000 to 500,000 yearly deaths" worldwide, Wikipedia tells us. "The typical estimate is 36,000 [deaths] a year in the United States," reports NBC, citing the Centers for Disease Control. "Somewhere between 4,000 and 8,000 Canadians a year die of influenza and its related complications", according to the Public Health Agency of Canada, adding that "Those numbers are controversial because they are estimates.""Controversial" is an understatement, and not just in Canada, and not just because the numbers are estimates. The numbers differ wildly from the sober tallies recorded on death certificates -- by law every certificate must show a cause -- and reported by the official agencies that collect and keep vital statistics.

    According to the National Vital Statistics System in the U.S., for example, annual flu deaths in 2010 amounted to just 500 per year -- fewer than deaths from ulcers (2,977), hernias (1,832) and pregnancy and childbirth (825), and a far cry from the big killers such as heart disease (597,689) and cancers (574,743). The story is similar in Canada, where unlikely killers likewise dwarf Statistics Canada's count of flu deaths.
    The CDC unabashedly decided to create a mass market for the flu vaccine by enlisting the media into panicking the public. An obedient and unquestioning media obliged by hyping the numbers, and 10 years later it is obliging still.
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    Funny it looks like the same propaganda / disinformation I received from the JW in my mailbox last week.... Need to check.
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    I wonder how you would feel if you were in healthcare like myself and see the hospitalization a and deaths first hand. Had two deaths since the new year and countless er visits with about a third being admitted. But yeah, it's a laughing matter. The shot is free for 90 percent of people and although it lowers mortality it drastically lowers hospitalizations. Pretty good bet to get it, unless you
    believe Jenny McCarthy and a disbarred physician are more reliable than medical data and the opinion of nearly every doctor and pharmacist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    I wonder how you would feel if you were in healthcare like myself and see the hospitalization a and deaths first hand. Had two deaths since the new year and countless er visits with about a third being admitted. But yeah, it's a laughing matter. The shot is free for 90 percent of people and although it lowers mortality it drastically lowers hospitalizations. Pretty good bet to get it, unless you
    believe Jenny McCarthy and a disbarred physician are more reliable than medical data and the opinion of nearly every doctor and pharmacist.
    Well said. It's an uphill battle though, some "religion" are spending millions in PR each years to fight vaccination.
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    I have never had flu shot and I get the flu maybe once every third year, same with colds. Even though I am older than most on this forum I have a pretty strong constitution and don't get sick with anything very often. My parents used to get them after they turned 65 on the advice of their doctor. Now that my daughter is back to work, I am sure that she will bring it home at some point and the wife will catch it. The people at work will most assuredly get it and the boss is the worst, he gets sick with everything every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Yep. it's another well known fraud.

    NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget) is an anti-science conspiracy website founded by Mike Adams (self-labeled "The Health Ranger") which promotes numerousalternative medicines and assorted woo.[1]
    The site particularly specializes in: vaccine denialism and woo,[2] AIDS/HIV denialism,[3] quack cancer treatments,[4] and Conspiracy theories about "Big Pharma".[5]
    Furthermore, Adams supports quantum woo, specifically quantum healing,[6] the many worlds interpretation, and quantum consciousness.[7] NaturalNews advances ahard green position, even though the site also promotes global warming denialism.[8] Adams promotes conspiracy theories about gun control.[9]
    Long story short: Even other quacks think it's a quack site.[10]
    If you cite NaturalNews on any matter whatsoever, you are almost certainly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    FYI Most multi-dose vaccines contain Thimerosal as a preservative but the single does vials/syringes of the same vaccine don't. Thimerosal has been linked to Autism so many manufacturers dropped it's inclusion in the vaccines. Merck for one did for US vaccines and they were known as 'T-free'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_S View Post
    FYI Most multi-dose vaccines contain Thimerosal as a preservative but the single does vials/syringes of the same vaccine don't. Thimerosal has been linked to Autism so many manufacturers dropped it's inclusion in the vaccines. Merck for one did for US vaccines and they were known as 'T-free'.
    false, thimerosal has not been linked to autism. several companies have tried to research a link but nothing conclusive was ever found. however, i opt to get preservative free because why not? the cost is free either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post

    wow, you should be embarrassed to have posted that. it makes you look like a complete fool. firstly, there are some formulations that were not approved for pediatric use because they didn't do the intensive testing. notice it says adult formulation on the front. others have been approved after testing. second, you can easily get preservative free if you are ignorant and think that level of mercury is a big deal (newsflash: check your foods. you might stop eating). third, you just posted a link front a known whack job. congrats. as i said, might as well post from jenny mccarthy. she has as much credibility. there has been zero evidence whatsoever of preservatives causing any kind of issue. in fact, the majority of foods have evidence supporting that they are actually significantly more dangerous, and even that has nothing concrete behind it. the vaccine has been tested over a large number of years with millions upon millions of patients. is it perfect? no, nothing is. when you give something to 500 million people, you will at some point have some sort of negative consequence. it is a given. antibiotics actually cause far more problems, would you refuse those?

    you really ought to leave the science to the people who know what they are talking about. this kind of garbage only makes you look ignorant. sorry, the truth hurts. i spent 6 months in an immunology department and another 3 months in infectious disease. most of my residency was spent in some form of infectious disease and my best friend and closest colleague spent two years at mayo clinic in infectious disease. you really should stop now before you look more ridiculous.

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