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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    There is a difference between fighting the legislation and running out and panic buying the ammo though.
    Again - it's not legislation. It's a royal decree disguised as an ATF ruling. Congress never authorized the ATF to regulate non AP rifle rounds. Yet it's funny how all three branches, especially Congress and the Courts, conveniently overlook this detail and let the ATF redefine what AP is whenever it wants. There's no question who's side the Govt as a whole is on. You really can't petition a corrupt government for redress. Sometimes panic buying, especially for those who didn't plan ahead, is the only real option. All we really can hope is that money talks and the lobbyists for the ammo industry grease enough palms to make this go away for a while.

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    The point that I'm trying to make is that if people are really worried about, they should write in (I did), as that takes MUCH less effort than running around town trying to buy something. Priorities I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    The point that I'm trying to make is that if people are really worried about, they should write in (I did), as that takes MUCH less effort than running around town trying to buy something. Priorities I guess.
    Writing in may take less effort but it's not effective. It all gets deleted without ever getting read. Even our representatives could care less about our letters, no matter what their generic auto-responders say. They only care when lobbyists come bearing checks. Hopefully the likes of the NRA, GOA and NSSF are writing a lot of checks for the cause.

    This will get decided by money. Either the ammo industry will lose too much money and they'll fight it with lobbyists and lawyers, or they will get lucrative contracts from the govt to offset their loses and they'll quietly go along with the ban. Considering who's president I'm not sure if offering contracts is on the table. Bankrupting the ammo industry may be a goal as well.

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    I meant writing into the ATF, since they have to review all the comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I meant writing into the ATF, since they have to review all the comments.
    Like that matters. I am sure some over worked intern is busy mailing off canned response letters.

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    write in and state your case of course, but in the meantime prepare
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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    Like that matters. I am sure some over worked intern is busy mailing off canned response letters.
    The ATF unlike one's .gov rep IS required to read AND respond to each letter & e-mail they receive. It's one if not the only reason the CLEO sign off for Form 1 application implementation, has been pushed back till May.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    Our side, as usual, is myopic and only focusing on the specific issue at hand and not seeing the big picture. This is about far more than m855.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    The ATF unlike one's .gov rep IS required to read AND respond to each letter & e-mail they receive. It's one if not the only reason the CLEO sign off for Form 1 application implementation, has been pushed back till May.
    This. That CLEO write off issue came up a while back I believe as well.
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