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    I don't know that I'd call DeGrasse Tyson a moonbat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    The question in my mind is not if the climate is changing, as it clearly is. The question, to me, is "Is this being accelerated by humans, and to what extent?" Given historical data (90% of North America being covered by more than 100 feet of ice ~30K years ago, but being tropical roughly 30K years before that), I gotta say that our impact is minimal at best.
    While I am in agreement with you, I think that people who are skeptical of the climate change predictive models need a better argument than the above mentioned. A dam builder can point to the historical movement of a river, just as a lumberjack can point out how the tree he is cutting down might not have even been around 200 years ago, but that doesn't change the fact that damming a river or cutting down a tree are having a dramatic effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I don't know that I'd call DeGrasse Tyson a moonbat.
    I Agree, but I damn sure wouldn't call him " the most respected SCIENTIST and probably the most brilliant minded person on our little planet today..."
    "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn’t so." Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Reminds me of Guam capsizing into the ocean.
    I remember listening to that conversation.....IIRC, it was a congressman asking an admiral about the impact of landing ships on Guam. It left me speechless.

    I remember in the 70's, the climate scientists were alarming the world with "the earth is cooling, the earth is coolig!".
    Watching these science shows, they think ~500m years ago the atmosphere was toxic, full of toxic and acidic gases. About every 2m years, or so, the magnetic poles flip, at which point we have limited protection from space radiation and mass extinctions were likely. There is evidence that at one time the entire planet was covered with ice, not simply an ice age. Volcanos spew billions of tons of crud in the atmosphere every year. We banned CFCs and the holes in the ozone are as big as ever.

    The list goes on....when Yellowstone erupts, I'll gab a lawn chair and a beer.

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    Some say the end is near, some say we'll see Armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will....... Learn to swim.

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    Climate alarmism has been debunked as 100% politics and junk science. Can we move on, finally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post

    Wait...are you saying that the two biggest names in the "Scientific community" who are championing climate change are outspoken liberals? So much for the wish "that politics and religion were kept away from science."
    "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn’t so." Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Davsel, I'm a little confused... I thought you were arguing against me, but your video shows exactly my point (i.e. religion interfering with science) by the same guy (Degrasse) whom I previously referenced...

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