Wanting a long range toy!

[Tim K]

Litz makes a case for over stabilization being a non-issue. No negatives, only positives. Crap, now that I think about it it may have been a magazine article.

...gotta quit drinking...

I'd go 1-10 myself.

[Spdu4ia]

Wasn't that in "Apllied Ballistics"?

[fly boy]

Either one should work with the 175 or 155 grain bullets . The 1-12 is close to the edge and 1-10 is over stabilized. Up here at altitude you can get away with less twist because of air density .

The Palma shooters are running 1-14 with the 155's . My 308 is 1-11.25 . There is a school of thought that you never want to spin a bullet any faster than you have to , Walt Berger is a huge proponent of this . I can't say that I've ever seen any ill effects from over stabilizing first hand .

I shoot 165/168gr out of my savage currently - what twist would you recommend for a 168gr?

[C Ward]

Any of the ones talked about already will work

[Spdu4ia]

1/10 on my savage .308 works just fine.
But like he said, Any of those mentioned will work

[C Ward]

Also ditch the 168's , there are way better bullets out there now . Look at the 175 SMK's , New 155 SMK , 155 Scenar , 178 Amax ,. Hornady's 175 HPBT , and Nosler's 175 .The BC's on these bullets are all way better than the 168's

[Tactical Joke]

What, no love for the FN SPR A1? :-). Pre-64 Winchester model 70 action and you can find then new for less than $1600.

It's on my short list of next purchases.

[C Ward]

What, no love for the FN SPR A1? :-). Pre-64 Winchester model 70 action and you can find then new for less than $1600.

It's on my short list of next purchases.

Good actions but FN has had some QC issues with the chrome lined barrels , some shoot and some don't . The other issue is aftermarket parts availability , just isn't as much as the Rem \ Rem clones and Savage . Also to add a detachable mag the receiver must be milled for clearance .

[TheBelly]

Also ditch the 168's , there are way better bullets out there now . Look at the 175 SMK's , New 155 SMK , 155 Scenar , 178 Amax ,. Hornady's 175 HPBT , and Nosler's 175 .The BC's on these bullets are all way better than the 168's

I use the Nosler 175 Custom Competition, but only because I'm a cheapskate. I get them for around 20 cents a piece. G7 BC of 0.249......

[Tactical Joke]

Good actions but FN has had some QC issues with the chrome lined barrels , some shoot and some don't . The other issue is aftermarket parts availability , just isn't as much as the Rem \ Rem clones and Savage . Also to add a detachable mag the receiver must be milled for clearance .

They did have problems with the factory in the northeast. They moved it down South--with some overflow to Spain--and things have been good to go ever since that time, to my knowledge.

I'd argue that many of the aftermarket doo-dahs we buy for the R700 aren't necessary on the SPR, because it already does things 'right.' I will acknowledge stock availability is lacking, but that's about the only thing seems to be lacking for me.

But hey, it's great that we still have choices.