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    Play with height over bore on a ballistics program , it can induce problems because the angle between the bore and scope is bigger . Always better to be as close to the bore as possible .

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Ward View Post
    Play with height over bore on a ballistics program , it can induce problems because the angle between the bore and scope is bigger . Always better to be as close to the bore as possible .
    I think the program can do the math to figure it out and spit out an answer that gives an educated start point. It still needs refinement and verification, though.

    I used a 1.0" and a 3" height. That being said, I noticed that they were different. I can't say that either was a problem without verification. Smarter folks than me say that it doesn't matter that much, as long as the measurement that gets put into the "confuser" is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    I think it will be a good stock. Haven't seen one in person but Magpul usually rocks. The price-point is good too. They have an option for mags and magwell. I think they will sell a ton of these. I would put my name down on one before they go "back-order" crazy. There are tons of great stock options for R700, but they get expensive fast! Ask me how I know? XLR Element is a great option too; they are in Grand Junction and colorado_hack is a dealer here on the board.

    Take a look at these mounts, quality stuff and not super pricey. http://www.seekinsprecision.com/part...ope-bases.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I was planning on there being no cure!
    I looked at getting into a B&C M40 stock down the road: http://www.redhawkrifles.com/product...40-stock-black
    I looked at getting a Leupold mount system with the PRW rings... all in all, the entire mounting system for under $75 at Cabela's, not a bad deal, considering they're selling the rifle for under $650. A sub $1500 system all said and done? I'm stoked, and it's easier to not feel guilty explaining the screaming deal to the GF.
    I found Red Hawk Rifles from gunbroker and thought about buying a custom rifle off the shelf. I just don't know what "lap the lugs" does for a rifle, and I would rather hold/feel it before I purchase.

    As for Optics, I would agree with MarkCo - I will just put a set of rings and another $250-$300 scope on it. - I am a "couch commando"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBelly View Post
    I think the program can do the math to figure it out and spit out an answer that gives an educated start point. It still needs refinement and verification, though.

    I used a 1.0" and a 3" height. That being said, I noticed that they were different. I can't say that either was a problem without verification. Smarter folks than me say that it doesn't matter that much, as long as the measurement that gets put into the "confuser" is accurate.

    The issue comes with an error in the scope height measurement , really easy to make especially on AR's . The closer to the bore the scope is to the bore is the smaller the induced error is . Also don't buy in to the anything within a 1/4 inch on scope height measurement is GTG . With accurate inputs my ballistics program is spot on no need to fiddle with the numbers to match the actual bullet path like Horus has everybody believing with there ATRAG junk .



    The Magpul stock should be a solid product , I haven't seen it yet , the two people that were heavily involved with the design are both from a Marine sniper background and very good shooters . I would get the AICS adaptor for it because of those mags taking a longer OAL cartridge , not an issue if you shoot nothing but factory ammo but important with handloads .

    The PRW rings are OK but I've seen them having issues with the cross bolts breaking and shifting zero's . The economy solution for scope mounting is an EGW base with Burris XTR rings . The Seekins mounts mentioned earlier are solid and worth the money .
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