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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Wether anybody here knows it, we all had a win today with this. They also made it so the States cannot ban municipalities from competing in broadband. It is a good day. Who knows how it will be twisted by the ISP's but I think we can all agree that a level playing field is American. That is what this did. The ISP's can't play favorites with Internet traffic. This is not the Man/Gov taking over, it is actually keeping it the way it was always supposed to work. The Internet should not care if a packet comes from Google, a Mom&Pop shop or just a kid at home. That is the simplified answer to what 'Net Neutrality' really is.
    How do you know? If you have a source for the 330 page regulation, please pass along. Every single report I have read from a dozen different sources, both for and against it, say it hasn't been published for public review.

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    I can't wait this should be great stuff. Soon they'll propose the "Fairness Act" on the internet, too many "right winger" sites. Also need to add that shopping list of taxes we have on our phone bills. I'm sure nobody minds paying extra taxes each month so all those people living in Bumfuck Egypt can have internet. I guess they will need to reduce the number of internet providers to match the list of public utility providers Wow, this will be great.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post
    I can't wait this should be great stuff. Soon they'll propose the "Fairness Act" on the internet, too many "right winger" sites. Also need to add that shopping list of taxes we have on our phone bills. I'm sure nobody minds paying extra taxes each month so all those people living in Bumfuck Egypt can have internet. I guess they will need to reduce the number of internet providers to match the list of public utility providers Wow, this will be great.




    I love it. Alright!! This is gonna be great! NOT!!!!!

    All the idiots, totalitarians, communists, morons, halfwits, rocket surgeons, scholars, and other assorted mental defectives that are for Net Neutrality are going to be crying in their milk in a couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post
    Soon they'll propose the "Fairness Act" on the internet, too many "right winger" sites.
    It's been done before (with TV and radio) and there were reports last year that the FCC was considering doing it again.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...reedom/384924/


    http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/...trine-20140212

    Is the FCC Trying to Revive the ‘Fairness Doctrine’?


    The controversy stems from a study the agency plans to conduct on "critical information needs." The FCC is required by law to study ways to eliminate barriers to entry for small media businesses.
    Among other things, the agency plans to ask TV journalists about their "news philosophy" and "the process by which stories are selected." The study will gather data on "perceived station bias" and "perceived responsiveness to underserved populations." The FCC also wants to examine how local TV stations cover "critical information" such as "economic opportunities" and the "environment."
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    How do you know? If you have a source for the 330 page regulation, please pass along. Every single report I have read from a dozen different sources, both for and against it, say it hasn't been published for public review.
    That is a big part of it, when Netflix and other streaming video suppliers couldn't make their customers happy and they could no longer blame it on the "last mile" ISP they struck deals to prioritize their stuff so end users could watch movies without buffering. Now it is going to be a level playing field again, so if you are getting your advertised internet speeds (while plugged directly into a GOOD modem not the Wally special and not wireless) and you can't stream your netflix or direc tv or Hulu or whatever you need to complain to that company and not your ISP. Direc tv customers, this still won't fix your streaming video stuff haha

    their are other unknown deals being made in this new legislation as we all know, when the gobment gets involved unknown stuff gets signed.

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    We the people had no access to view the bill yet special interest groups, Google as the biggest name, were able to make "tweaks" to the law prior to final vote today?

    yeah this is great for the little guy.
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    Well, the internet is still here, and I have enough food in my house to make it to the weekend without dying, so I guess I'm okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Wether anybody here knows it, we all had a win today with this. They also made it so the States cannot ban municipalities from competing in broadband. It is a good day. Who knows how it will be twisted by the ISP's but I think we can all agree that a level playing field is American. That is what this did. The ISP's can't play favorites with Internet traffic. This is not the Man/Gov taking over, it is actually keeping it the way it was always supposed to work. The Internet should not care if a packet comes from Google, a Mom&Pop shop or just a kid at home. That is the simplified answer to what 'Net Neutrality' really is.
    You have no idea if the 332 pages of new regulations are indeed anything like what you think "Net Neutrality" is just because it has the words "Net" and "Neutrality" on the cover ... being happy over this at this point is foolishness.

    I could say I was going to toss a "fluffy kitten" into your lap, but you had to close your eyes first ... of course you want a fluffy kitten ... they're warm, cute, fluffy ... so when I toss a rabid bobcat into your lap you're going to be pissed.

    Hey, maybe it'll be the panicia of free and open internet we all keep hearing that "Net Neutrality" will bring. But knowing the Obama administration and Democrats track record forever ... I suspect we just got a rabid bobcat tossed into our lap.
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    This won't end well... IBTIL (in before the internet lock)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    You have no idea if the 332 pages of new regulations are indeed anything like what you think "Net Neutrality" is just because it has the words "Net" and "Neutrality" on the cover ... being happy over this at this point is foolishness.
    But ObamaCare said "Affordable Care Act" on the cover, right?
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