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    He shouldn't have even gone onto that tv show in the first place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    He shouldn't have even gone onto that tv show in the first place...
    True.

    What people like Dr. Carson do not understand is that the communists play dirty and they play for keeps.

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    What does it matter? he has already made anti 2nd amendment comments and should have been off the watch list a long time ago.

    At least now maybe people will see that he's a good speech maker but worthless beyond that, who else does that remind you of?
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    My perspective tells me that the problem is not actually with the candidates. Generally, conservatives care who they elect to represent them. Character counts. What the candidates say matters. Progressives don't really have these types of restrictions when it comes to their candidates. What they say is less important than what they can do for me. How does the candidate make me feel. Will they pay their constituents back for their contributions and votes?

    Before any election begins, the default media position is conservatives are ignorant and backwards. Progressives are brilliant and caring.

    I predict this coming Presidential election will be one of the most blatant "Cult of Personality" battles that I have ever witnessed, and I mean on both sides of the aisle. What does it say about our nation when two years out and the most likely tickets will be Bush v Clinton? What year are we living in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack View Post
    Hopefully Dr Carson will recognize soon he is finished, and pull out
    Giggity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    True.

    What people like Dr. Carson do not understand is that the communists play dirty and they play for keeps.
    ^^ THIS...

    he needed a "handler" or media consultant more than a year ago..
    I suspect this would have prevented issues even within the (R) party.
    He has not only put his foot in it with this, but with conservatives about gun control issues...
    In my heart I believe he is intelligent enough, and is a constitutionalist... he could be easily convinced to do the right thing, given the right audience...

    but it was nailed with "he's not a politician"... if you have political aspirations as a conservative, PLEASE get a good political consultant and listen to them.

    It seems that even idiot liberals don't need to do that, the handlers seek THEM out.. maybe that's what the conservatives need
    Last edited by 68Charger; 03-04-2015 at 17:57.
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    ^^ THIS...

    he needed a "handler" or media consultant more than a year ago..
    I suspect this would have prevented issues even within the (R) party.
    He has not only put his foot in it with this, but with conservatives about gun control issues...
    In my heart I believe he is intelligent enough, and is a constitutionalist... he could be easily convinced to do the right thing, given the right audience...

    but it was nailed with "he's not a politician"... if you have political aspirations as a conservative, PLEASE get a good political consultant and listen to them.

    It seems that even idiot liberals don't need to do that, the handlers seek THEM out.. maybe that's what the conservatives need
    My question on that would be if the handlers would really be any better than what the candidates are already saying. The biggest problem the R's are facing is that what the deeply religious base wants to hear from someone will piss off a lot of undecided voters, especially on the issues the D's know they can hammer home of gay marriage and abortion. The minute even one of them says gay marriage shouldn't be banned and that the gov't should just let people live how they want the evangelicals will be frothing at the mouth and snapping their teeth. They'd get more of the middle voters, but they'd lose money from the far right voters.

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    Hell, he was honest and open and this forum is giving him nothing but crap about it? He should be applauded for NOT being a tool of a consultant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    My question on that would be if the handlers would really be any better than what the candidates are already saying. The biggest problem the R's are facing is that what the deeply religious base wants to hear from someone will piss off a lot of undecided voters, especially on the issues the D's know they can hammer home of gay marriage and abortion. The minute even one of them says gay marriage shouldn't be banned and that the gov't should just let people live how they want the evangelicals will be frothing at the mouth and snapping their teeth. They'd get more of the middle voters, but they'd lose money from the far right voters.
    Yep, they're f'd... So the devil wins...
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Hell, he was honest and open and this forum is giving him nothing but crap about it? He should be applauded for NOT being a tool of a consultant.
    I applaud his honesty... But that means he doesn't make a good politician.

    an "honest" politician at least knows when TO KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT
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