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    wow that's crazy... sorry to hear.

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    Very tragic!

    However, I am confused about the whole thing.

    I understand the man and van went missing on March 18, yet the only reference to the case I can find are the threads here on ar-15.co- no media coverage at all???

    So the van sat in the Aurora Sams Club parking lot for a month, with a body inside, and nobody noticed? Wouldn't the PD checkout a vehicle that has not moved for weeks and run the plates, especially since they were supposed to be looking for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Very tragic!

    However, I am confused about the whole thing.

    I understand the man and van went missing on March 18, yet the only reference to the case I can find are the threads here on ar-15.co- no media coverage at all???

    So the van sat in the Aurora Sams Club parking lot for a month, with a body inside, and nobody noticed? Wouldn't the PD checkout a vehicle that has not moved for weeks and run the plates, especially since they were supposed to be looking for it?
    I am confused too .455_Hunter.... That's absolutely inexcusable. The Sam's Club employees and local Law Enforcement should be ashamed of themselves.

    Edit after the fact: ok, I concede "ashamed of themselves" is premature and improperly directed at LEO. Its implausible for them to monitor all parking lots for stationary vehicles. However, if the van has been in the parking lot for a month, the employees should be, especially those who close down the store each night.... I cannot imagine more than a few days passing by, leaving to a near-empty lot and not noticing the van.
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    I know the wife posted info on a Denver news channel's site approx Mar 29 but had sketchy info at the time -- including some that I think turned out to be bad (like someone other than him used his credit card an hour after he left the rental lot). I"m quite sure his wife was stressed and the thought of putting something on Facebook was stressing her more as she didn't want to get direct calls. I am not going to say anyone should be ashamed of themselves until I see evidence they should have.

    Maybe the van sat there a long time -- maybe it didn't. If something nefarious happened, the perps could have taken the van and him somewhere, did what they were going to do, then dumped the van as info on the van started to filter out. On the other hand, assume the incident was natural and he had a stroke or something in the van in the parking lot; if that's the case, I'm curious about why it took so long to check out a van parked there for so long but maybe they have an employee with a similar vehicle who did that regularly? I have parked my vehicle at work for weeks on end because it was easier and cheaper to catch a cab to the airport from work than to drive and pay 3+ weeks worth of parking fees.

    If blame is deserved, that info will come out. In the meantime, I'm sorry he's gone and glad the family knows for sure instead of being left wondering.

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    May he rest in peace.
    And may the family find peace and comfort.
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    A store employee noticed the van had been in the same spot for 4 days and then notified APD. Listed as a "non-suspicious death, no threat to the public", APD contacted news organizations on Monday.

    Sad none the less, condolences to the family and friends.
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    A passenger van in a Sam's or Walmart parking lot may not attract much attention for a while. Especially if it was at the Sam's on Abilene, which is right next to at least one hotel.

    Edit to add: I am also running under the assumption that he was not visible to casual passers by (i.e.; not slumped over the wheel, etc.)

    All said, tragic as it all is, I am thankful that his family and friends may now at least find some closure in the matter. This was/is a horrible situation.
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    I find it absurd that I saw no news coverage of it asking for people to be on the lookout. However, every news channel had several stories a day for several days about dope smoking 420 idiots and going ons. Pathetic. I HATE local news.

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    You would think he would have received some news coverage; even after they were contacted multiple times. For anyone that is interested;

    http://www.gofundme.com/richard-evans

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    Keep in mind that places like Sam's Club, Costco, etc., probably have night crews working in there all night between closing and opening. I works nights at five different Home Depot stores, those places are NEVER completely dark and empty, there's always somebody there doing freight, stocking, merchandising, etc. I sure as hell wouldn't notice a vehicle sitting unmoved for days, unless it was a vehicle I had an interest in like something old or cool.
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