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My bad. "Good riddance" is too strong a sentiment.
Perhaps "Oh well, at least they died enjoying what they do," would more accurately reflect my view.
The problem I have is with the amount of rescue resources used and lives risked trying to save these "adventurers."
"Climb at your own risk"
How is the S&R effort a problem for you?
-Mike
"I have to return some video tapes"
They would be better utilized helping those who did not have a choice.Originally Posted by Graves
Don't start back-pedaling now. You wanted an echo chamber and you didn't get it.
You think they enjoyed being swept way and suffocated in an avalanche? I spend my winters in avalanche terrain and have lost friends to avalanches. If you don't "get it" then don't spout-off about.
If your post count is higher than your round count, you are a troll.
Life is precious.
I have little sympathy for those who choose to unnecessarily risk it or waste it.
I have contempt for those who unnecessarily cause others to risk their lives to save them.
Those heading out to rescue are volunteers almost exclusively. They have a choice too and aren't forced to go. With great risk comes great reward, those folks were looking to become part of an exclusive group that summit Everest. The people paying to climb Everest pay upwards of 100k. The Sherpas make 5k-30k per season, topping out at 40x the average ANNUAL salary for the area. They have great risk and reward as well. These deaths are nothing new for that environment. They will happen again.
as to the media, they will go after the most juicy story to draw in viewers. The Google exec was the higher profile person that gathers a bit more attention that your average climber/ thrill seeker. I offer little sympathy for a risk environment they knowingly went too. It's not like these people are sir Edmund Hillary making the first ascent of Everest...this was a known risky area, instead of a mountain getting them, it was a quake.
I just hope the damned Chinese are putting more resources and money towards rescue efforts than we are, what with them thinking they own the entire region and all.
It's all good.
Just remember mainstream media doesn't reflect the "mainstream". Same can be said for the gun debate.
My wife works for Sea to Summit. Some our outdoorsmen may know of them. The company's fonder is from Australia. He hiked from sea level to the top of Everest. She works for the North America division based in Boulder. It's been a pretty somber day around there.
http://www.seatosummit.com
"In 1984 a small group of climbers from the world's flattest continent pulled off an audacious ascent of Mount Everest - they put a new route up the north face in lightweight style with no oxygen or sherpa support. Six years later, one of the summiteers, Tim Macartney-Snape decided to return to Everest after he realized neither he nor any other person who had climbed the mountain had truly climbed the entire 8,848 meters, as that would have meant starting from sea level. That is, no one had yet climbed it from "sea to summit".
In the spring of 1990 Tim had a swim in the tepid waters of India's Bay of Bengal then set off on foot across the Gangetic plain toward the distant Himalayan foothills. Four months later, after climbing alone from Base Camp and without the assistance of oxygen, he set foot once again on the highest point on earth. Tim's solo ascent of Mt. Everest was named the "Sea to Summit" expedition."
Just don't group everyone together as "no one cares". There are plenty of people in this country and more important, locally that care about the thousands affected by this.
I am in no flipping way a mountaineer. But I envy them. Avid backpacker and outdoor enthusiast. I would love to the opportunity to go on an adventure like Everest. Never going to happen. But I'm sure the feeling of overcoming something like that is amazing.
We are all still human. Weather a climber, a Sherpa, or a donkey owner, it's all a tragic loss of life.
Some may call it an unnecessary risk, some may call it living life to its fullest. I have been an avid kayaker for years. I have paddled some wild rivers from Quebec to Colorado. I have lost friends to the rivers and the sky. They didn't set out to die, but rather died living life to it's fullest extent. Perusing what you love brings you closer to being alive than the comfort and safety of a protected existence in my opinion.
Hell, I saw more news stories about Bruce Jenner getting his dick cut off (and *gasp* being a Republican) than I saw of the tragedy in Nepal.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
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