Jefferson County Open Space CCW

[gnihcraes]

Signs are posted, no Open Carry. Rules and Regulations from the internet say:

C.15. Firearms/Projectiles:
a) It shall be unlawful to openly carry, possess, discharge or
use firearms, B-B guns, pellet guns, air guns, cross bows,
long bows or slingshots while on Open Space lands, except
in designated areas, or while in the possession of a valid
Jefferson County Open Space Hunting Access Permit.
Fine: $150.00
b) It shall be unlawful to carry, possess, discharge, or use
paintball guns and Airsoft-type guns while on Open Space
lands. Fine: $75.00

Looks to me like it's ok then correct? Doesn't say you can't and doesn't say you can. It does say "Possess" though...

Any Opinions?

Kc.

[gnihcraes]

I might have answered my own question, digging around found this on Jefferson County website:

Do Colorado State Parks or Open Space allow a person to carry a handgun?
Only if you are a valid permit holder and carry concealed. You must not carry in an open fashion.

[Sticks]

Now someone needs to give the legal description of "concealed". Nowhere on the books.

[hkOrion]

Was just up at one of the open spaces today - this was new to me, saw it when I came out. Luckily there was nobody there to give me crap. I think it's stupid, take you longer to get your weapon out if you need it.

Anyone have an y background on when/why it was changed or is it just people being stupid?

[gnihcraes]

what exactly did you see? "no firearms" on a sign? or No "open carry". ??

[hkOrion]

I was at the Meyer Ranch open space - the sign specifically stated that the "Open Carry of Firearms" was Prohibited.

[gnihcraes]

exactly... doesn't say anything about firearms, nor does it say anything about concealed carry... just don't "open carry".

[Sticks]

I carry IWB and tucked all day, every day. I can draw and fire in just over 1 sec.

Practice, practice, practice.

[TFOGGER]

Concealed carry is legal with a permit in Jeffco Open space, as state law supercedes local regulation in this instance:

18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons.

(1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:
(a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or
(b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or
(c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.
(d) (Deleted by amendment, L. 93, p. 964, § 1, effective July 1, 1993.)
(2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:
(a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or
(b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or
(c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214; or
(d) A peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2), C.R.S.; or
(e) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2003, p. 1624, § 46, effective August 6, 2003.)
(f) A United States probation officer or a United States pretrial services officer while on duty and serving in the state of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States.

Although, a ranger may not know the law, so as long as concealed STAYS concealed, it should not be an issue.