Another head-exploding moment...

[rondog]

And the pussification continues.....

[Gman]

This is a concerted effort to break down a strong society. They promote dysfunction while tearing down functional standards that have worked for millennia. What was wrong is now right, what was right is now wrong. Their intended goal is increased dependence on government.

[BPTactical]

Aaaannd the winner is:

This is a concerted effort to break down a strong society. They promote dysfunction while tearing down functional standards that have worked for millennia. What was wrong is now right, what was right is now wrong. Their intended goal is increased dependence on government.

The left is aggressively doing anything and everything to destroy, demean or discredit anything that is considered "Traditional American Values".


To name a few:
Marriage
Sexuality
Middle Class
Veterans
Honesty
Truth
Morals









Foxtrot, your scale is funny.......sad as hell but funny

[Aloha_Shooter]

The left is aggressively doing anything and everything to destroy, demean or discredit anything that is considered "Traditional American Values".

To name a few:
Marriage
Sexuality
Middle Class
Veterans
Honesty
Truth
Morals

You forgot Thrift and Self-Reliance.

[Ronin13]

Execution with antiaircraft guns, people don't know what their gender is, go to jail for singing Kung Fu Fighting, everybody is a winner and there are no losers, insanity run amok.

TEA


III

Dogs and Cats living together... Mass hysteria! Sorry, that's what your post reminded me of.

What I don't understand, and you can include the homosexuality debate with this, is that we're (society) catering to a very small portion of the population. Transgender makes up an estimated .3% of the population is transgender. Compare that to roughly 2.3% of the population identifying as homosexual. So why are we catering to such a small portion of the population? I know maybe a handful of gays (less than 20), and out of that very small handful I know ONE person who was born a man, but currently lives as a woman. Kids between puberty and adulthood (legal adulthood, ie 18) don't even know what's going on with all the hormones and what not going on. Hell, when I was 18 couldn't decide if I liked blonde women or brunette women better, much less anything complex, like what on earth a "gender neutral" person was. Sure, after high school I found out a kid a grade below me changed genders in his mid 20's, and we always wondered about him, but it's not something that happens with any real frequency in our schools that would warrant education or much less shifting policy toward this.

The thing that would anger me as a parent, and not being one it's impossible to fathom the real feelings of parental responsibility, this much I recognize, but being a responsible adult and empathizing with others who do have kids, if I had a daughter and I discovered a male student at her school "identified" as a female and the school considered allowing this young man (born a man and having male genitalia) to utilize female facilities, I would be very disgusted and angry. Granted, my experience, working in a jail and having to deal with this issue once before in that setting, it is a different case. We can't cater to someone's feelers, we approach from the safety and security standpoint. In schools it's a whole different monster where we feel that we can't harm a "confused" child's gentle sensibilities. Is the occurrence so frequent that this even needs to be addressed on such a large scale? If Jefferson County Schools put out a new policy where children who "identified" as a different gender were allowed to use that gender's restroom and locker rooms, would there even be enough children that would necessitate the need for the policy to extend to more than one school? I consider this the eroding of norms that have been clearly established in our society that have worked for over 100 years without much issue.

Side note: on one occasion I was dragged out to a gay bar with a couple of gay friends, and found that they have one all-gender restroom. Talk about uncomfortable! Is this where we are eventually headed? If so, I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Side note: on one occasion I was dragged out to a gay bar with a couple of gay friends, and found that they have one all-gender restroom. Talk about uncomfortable! Is this where we are eventually headed? If so, I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

The way society is headed, if I were to build a new restaurant or other place requiring rest rooms, I would probably have a communal sink area with individual genderless stalls equipped with privacy doors. Not sure how I could make them big enough to accommodate Roseanne Barr without having a George Michaels incident in one of the stalls but at least it would cut down on the women complaining about toilet equity.

I am rather annoyed that society is spending so much effort on a relatively powerful sub-minority. What do you do when the anti-Western/anti-Christian/anti-capitalist/anti-whatever types have taken over the public schools, the law schools, the judiciary, mass media, etc.?

[Irving]

That people identify themselves as different genders is an undeniable fact. However, recognizing that fact doesn't have to mean a change of curriculum. There is a different between a person's physical gender from birth, and how they feel inside. I think there are a lot more people who struggle with depression than who struggle with gender identity; but those two groups probably pretty heavily overlap. The point is that it's one thing to mention that some people identify as a different genders, but it doesn't need to be part of standard curriculum in high school. Just like with depression, if you want to learn more about it, go to college. We've had to deal with a kid in our daughter's class that decided one day to change genders. By "deal with" I mean that we were upset at first, then we did nothing and nothing has happened so far.

[Great-Kazoo]

That people identify themselves as different genders is an undeniable fact. However, recognizing that fact doesn't have to mean a change of curriculum. There is a different between a person's physical gender from birth, and how they feel inside. I think there are a lot more people who struggle with depression than who struggle with gender identity; but those two groups probably pretty heavily overlap. The point is that it's one thing to mention that some people identify as a different genders, but it doesn't need to be part of standard curriculum in high school. Just like with depression, if you want to learn more about it, go to college. We've had to deal with a kid in our daughter's class that decided one day to change genders. By "deal with" I mean that we were upset at first, then we did nothing and nothing has happened so far.

to (roughly) quote the Dice man

What is it, one day You get up one morning and flip a coin.

Heads, It's Hair Pie

Tails, it's balls across the Nose

[cstone]

Because the government schools have succeeded so well at providing quality educations to all children who attend, they have decided to take on the ills of society and address the many psychological issues faced by our society.

Sort of like expecting safety and social work from police officers.

How has that been working for us?

[Bailey Guns]

I guess I don't get the whole internal struggle with "gender identity". You're either male or female. Regardless of how you "feel", you're either male or female. You may not like your gender, you may not "identify" with your gender, but you're either male or female. Through modern medical technology you may even be able to change your plumbing. But you're still biologically either male or female. Chromosomes don't lie.

(OK...for all you who want to argue specifics of chromosome abnormalities, I'm referring to normal genetic makeup...not the relatively rare exceptions to the human male/female chromosome arrangement.)