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    Well, looks like the "waiver" story may be false - confusing explanation here:
    http://www.kxxv.com/story/29211450/f...lds-real-fight

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    A little more info coming out in court:

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_...9a763f170.html

    Weathers testified that he and about 15 other Bandidos from the Dallas area had just pulled into the restaurant parking lot and saw Cossacks lining the patio area. He said he hadn’t even parked his motorcycle before Cossacks yelled at club President David Martinez that he couldn’t park in a particular spot. Weathers said he felt like the Cossacks were “disrespecting” Martinez, and he rushed over and told them not to talk to his president that way. Suddenly, a Cossack punched him in the face, he said.

    He said he put his head down to cover up and defend himself and heard gunshots seconds later. He was being pulled to the ground and was being hit in the face, he said. Later, he was shot in the arm. The bullet passed through his arm, entered his chest and exited the other side, he said.

    Prosecutor Brandon Luce asked Weathers if he would jump into any fray to help his biker brothers. Weathers said he would.

    “This is 2015. We know violence is not the first answer,” Weathers said. “We are not stupid. We know there are better ways to handle things.”

    Weathers said he did not see who fired the first shot because he was fighting with another biker. He remembers hearing the sound of a “double-tap,” or pulling the trigger twice.

    After being shot, Weathers ran to take cover behind cars near Don Carlos restaurant, he said. Police arrived quickly and told everyone to get on the ground, he said, estimating the entire incident lasted four or five minutes.

    Weathers told Luce he was legally carrying a .40-caliber pistol but did not use it that day. When Luce referred to the Bandidos as a gang, Weathers corrected him, saying he is in a motorcycle club called the Bandidos.
    And from a Vise Grip MC site:

    http://www.visegripaustin.com/2015/06/update.html

    its been roughly 3 and a half weeks since the incident in waco. the 3 members of our club that were detained are currently out of confinement and back at home with their families, but unfortunately not without a price. bond conditions include they are not to have any contact whatsoever with anyone in any motorcycle club, including ours, and including each other. gps ankle monitors which cost 750 per month that we have to pay for, assure that they will not leave travis county, no drinking and 10 pm curfew. we were able to get jon and therons bikes out of impound, but they will not release ryans until we sort out a registration concern, and for the moment we believe they wont be trying any sort of civil forfeiture. and so nearly 40 grand later, lives turned upside down, here we are. in a holding pattern with rights removed while the waco legal system takes its time trying to figure out what the hell they are doing.
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    Still waiting for the LE Photo OP with the 1K weapons confiscated. Now regarding those who said (not here) that how different blacks were / are treated in places like BMo compared to waco. Where's the outrage over $1M in bail per, confiscation of property etc. Where's the outrage over this.

    Hell the media ran with the difference between POC's and this "White" gang treatment. Where's the media now asking why there's been little if any release of info regarding what the charges are ? Oh that's right #bikersdon'tmatter.
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    Some more legal questions being raised: https://www.texastribune.org/2015/06...ng-biker-case/

    snippet:
    More than three weeks after Waco police arrested 177 bikers following a deadly shootout at a local restaurant, no charges have been filed in the killings, nearly half the bikers remain in jail on unusually high bonds, and more than a few legal experts — including former prosecutors — are starting to wonder what is going on in McLennan County.

    The sluggish process of sorting out the guilty from the innocent raises civil rights questions, and potentially exposes the county to significant costs for arresting and detaining people who had no involvement in alleged crimes, experts said.So far, one federal civil rights lawsuit has been filedagainst the city of Waco and McLennan County by one of the bikers.
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    Why does this whole thing sound a lot like the Denver intersection mass arrest kicked up a notch?

    "Arrest them all, let the courts sort 'em out."

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    More from Breitbart, as of 6/14/15: http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/...tive-unravels/

    Interesting snippets:
    After reports saying that one of the nine people killed – 65 year old decorated vet Jessie Delgado – had no criminal ties or club affiliation, a piece in the Dallas Morning News two weeks ago Friday raised new questions about another man killed. The article says that Cossacks member Richard “Bear” Kirschner of Richardson had no criminal record, and that he drove to the Waco event with his wife, in their family car.
    The Waco police press release on Friday confirmed the use of suppressors.
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    News conference with one of the arrested witnesses and several attorneys.
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...ws-conference/

    Sounds like Waco has stepped in it.

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    Even "The Atlantic" is weighing in:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...bikers/399047/

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    "Leaked" security video from the shoot out.
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/458703513...#sp=show-clips

    Lucie, you got some 'splainin' to do.
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    Holy crap! They had a lot of weapons! Like 3 per guy according to the video.
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