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    Finally Called Dillon Justin's Avatar
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    Gun rights weren't lost in one fell swoop. Gun control has historically been instituted via incremental measures.

    Likewise, gun rights won't be won back in one great and ecstatic act of wholesale repeal.

    Politics simply doesn't work that way, and frankly, I'll happily take an incremental real-world victory over an imaginary wholesale one.

    If tweaking the magazine ban to make it less repressive is all it takes for gun rights supporters to pack up and go home, shame on us, but such an argument still at least envisions a world where our gun rights are better off, if only by a bit, than they are now.
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    If there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to buy a gun, there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to vote.

    For legal reasons, that's a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Gun rights weren't lost in one fell swoop. Gun control has historically been instituted via incremental measures.

    Likewise, gun rights won't be won back in one great and ecstatic act of wholesale repeal.

    Politics simply doesn't work that way, and frankly, I'll happily take an incremental real-world victory over an imaginary wholesale one.

    If tweaking the magazine ban to make it less repressive is all it takes for gun rights supporters to pack up and go home, shame on us, but such an argument still at least envisions a world where our gun rights are better off, if only by a bit, than they are now.
    I see that point, but people on our side simply don't work that way.

    The only thing that gets our side even remotely politically active is severe pain ... relieve the pain down to a dull ache and they'll sit on their laurels and just bitch and moan but not do anything.

    If we get 30 round magazines back I'll be happy but I won't pretend for a minute that it won't mean that the fight is over as far as most Colorado gun owners are concerned and we'll be stuck with the UBC law and magazine bans forever.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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