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    Perfectly stated Poncho. I might even take an exact quote of what you said and post it on other boards.
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    Be patient young jedi. do not be drastic or you will be labeled a traitor. time will tell. those who lye in wait will last longest.
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    I'm personally pretty sick of all the Obama hate. I don't hate Obama at all. It's the other people in his party, and the people that he owes favors to that I have a problem with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    I'm personally pretty sick of all the Obama hate. I don't hate Obama at all. It's the other people in his party, and the people that he owes favors to that I have a problem with.

    Wow. Your ok with government take over of private industry, nationalizing health care, and handing out bail outs to those who don't deserve a hand shake? Obama is a fucking fraud. Plain and simple.

    I don't like any of the sonova bitches in office, but he's the puppet master.

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    No no, I'm not okay with any of that. I personally don't think that he is the puppet master, just the mouth piece. Sometimes I get confused with what I post on each board. I kind of feel like I know what the people Obama owes favors to want, but I've never been sure of what kinds of things he wants to do. I'm sure I wouldn't agree with him on many things.

    I guess I just get sick of the whole Obama thing just like I was sick of the Bush thing. People tend to think that without Bush/Obama, all of those things they (we) hate would never have happened. You know what I mean? I don't like any of the stuff that is going on, but I can't comfortably look at Obama and say, "This is your fault, without you, none of this would happen!" Because it's just not true. I have the same anger, I just direct it differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    No no, I'm not okay with any of that. I personally don't think that he is the puppet master, just the mouth piece. Sometimes I get confused with what I post on each board. I kind of feel like I know what the people Obama owes favors to want, but I've never been sure of what kinds of things he wants to do. I'm sure I wouldn't agree with him on many things.

    I guess I just get sick of the whole Obama thing just like I was sick of the Bush thing. People tend to think that without Bush/Obama, all of those things they (we) hate would never have happened. You know what I mean? I don't like any of the stuff that is going on, but I can't comfortably look at Obama and say, "This is your fault, without you, none of this would happen!" Because it's just not true. I have the same anger, I just direct it differently.

    I understand. It's just when you fight for something as has your family for this country and watch it being pissed away has a different meaning to me than others.

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    there were folks saying that bush stole the presidency, right up until the day he left office.

    only fair that obie get the same treatment.

    hopefully he'll be able to wrap up his campaign before 2012.

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    Even before I got to the last post here (by Tor), I was poised to question/comment about the true puppet master(s). Personally, I don't think we've seen him/them yet and we'll be totally lost by the time we do.

    Thank you RRD3 for the original post that started this thread - it was a good read. I'm with Sniper7 though. We need to be prepared and poised, but be patient. Either the result will be that we prepared for nothing, or the time will clearly identify itself that action is required.

    Poncho was quite correct in that we have a system that has desecrated it's very foundations to become corrupt and self-serving. [Posters note: This is the first time I'm actually agreed with most of what Poncho said - sorry Poncho, we just usually see things from a different perspective - but I respect you and your articulate posts.] Our system can probably never be returned to what it once was and what it still should be. The best that we can possibly hope for is getting it somewhere in the neighborhood.

    More than just Obama, we've got equally serious problems with folks like Pelosi, Reid, Clinton (Hillary), and others who wholeheartedly believe that they know what is best for YOU and feel that it is their absolute duty to protect you from yourself. It doesn't bother them one bit to completely ignore YOUR rights and to dictate how you can/will live your life.

    We have a society today where it is perfectly acceptable to sit on your lazy ass and take increasingly outragious and growing hand-outs from the American people via the government. What's interesting to note is those individuals who really need help and are even willing to do what they can for themselves are often denied these hand-outs. It seems that our government simply wants to reward those who completely steal from the American tax-payer. I suppose this is because these folks happily accept becoming slaves to the government power-base.

    As far as our court system, I gave up on them doing the right thing many years ago - even before they enforeced the principle of no one having to accept personal responsibility.

    There is a puppet master out there. I honestly believe this master to be a consortium of some kind versus just a single individual. This puppet master has used our natural tendencies to play us into the position were we can be controlled.

    Does Obama scare me? You bet he does; and so does so much more! But I'm going to use that fear to give me the strength to prepare myself for the time where Patriots will know that there can be no more patience. Heaven help us all should that time come!
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    What Ginsue said.

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    So my question is to anyone, more opinions the better, but what do WE do? I'm in my 30's two kids, a wife, and a dog (the perfect nuclear family)
    I have no money, no political power, and just one voice and agree with most of the previous comments. So how do I get heard? A bunch of people I know, no of which knows what to do, want to be heard. Without looking, or sounding racist, or anti government, on immigration, our new leaders power, and their so called health care reform. What can I do? Load up, and wait? Theres gotta be more.

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