Do YOU Fear Obama?

[Pancho Villa]

So my question is to anyone, more opinions the better, but what do WE do? I'm in my 30's two kids, a wife, and a dog (the perfect nuclear family)
I have no money, no political power, and just one voice and agree with most of the previous comments. So how do I get heard? A bunch of people I know, no of which knows what to do, want to be heard. Without looking, or sounding racist, or anti government, on immigration, our new leaders power, and their so called health care reform. What can I do? Load up, and wait? Theres gotta be more.

Learn. I would say reading Ayn Rand is probably the best way - that is the only fully consistent, principled defense of human liberty you'll find. If you're very religious, to the point of Rand's atheism bothering you, I would say Locke is your man. He was probably one of the brightest thinkers of the enlightenment and a great influence on the American system.

Americans are unique in that they are almost the only culture left with an almost universal desire to do the right thing. That is why all these arguments about how inefficient socialized medicine is will ultimately fail - because, to an American, doing the right thing is more important than doing the efficient thing. The fundamental issue is the question of altruism - does man morally owe the product of his labors to his neighbors, or doesn't he? If your answer is yes, it will lead you invariably to Obama, then socialism, then dictatorship. If your answer is no, it will lead you back to freedom, capitalism and prosperity.

So, to my religious pals here: read Locke. He's a smart guy. To those who aren't very religious, read Locke, then Rand. And then advocate for reason and individual rights. Arguments from faith, from tradition, and that man isn't good enough from socialism are what got us to where we are today.

[Mista Bukit]

Learn. I would say reading Ayn Rand is probably the best way - that is the only fully consistent, principled defense of human liberty you'll find. If you're very religious, to the point of Rand's atheism bothering you, I would say Locke is your man. He was probably one of the brightest thinkers of the enlightenment and a great influence on the American system.

Americans are unique in that they are almost the only culture left with an almost universal desire to do the right thing. That is why all these arguments about how inefficient socialized medicine is will ultimately fail - because, to an American, doing the right thing is more important than doing the efficient thing. The fundamental issue is the question of altruism - does man morally owe the product of his labors to his neighbors, or doesn't he? If your answer is yes, it will lead you invariably to Obama, then socialism, then dictatorship. If your answer is no, it will lead you back to freedom, capitalism and prosperity.

So, to my religious pals here: read Locke. He's a smart guy. To those who aren't very religious, read Locke, then Rand. And then advocate for reason and individual rights. Arguments from faith, from tradition, and that man isn't good enough from socialism are what got us to where we are today.

I have to agree, Ayn Rand is probably the most influential writer I have ever read. After reading “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Fountain Head” my whole out look on freedom and government changed, I still re-read the books and they still provoke thought.

[Irving]

You guys don't think that the shitty excuse for a Republican party just wants power as well?

[Delfuego]

Lets please remember that it was GWB's appointee's that "Bailed" out the banks. It was Paulson and Giethner, who both (supposedly) proclaim to be free market thinkers and hate government incursions into the private sector. And they will soon ask for more bailout funds! There is plenty of shit you can heap on Obama, but please get your facts straight.

As for heathcare... well please go to perotcharts.com and look for yourself. Pretty soon the entire federal budget in its entirety will be dedicated to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The entire federal revenue! Now please consider that more and more Baby-Boomers are aging and want those benefits they were promised. With the revenues going down because of tax cuts and recessions how will "WE" (that's right you me and him) pay for this? The cost of heathcare in the US is doubling and tripling and the amount of revenue is not following pace. What do we do? I am open to suggestions. This also is not Obama's baby, he has just seen the numbers for himself. I only wish I had the same health plan as those assholes on capital hill who think everything is peachy.

I don't fear Obama, he is just another politician. He is no racist or devil or whatever he is being labeled this week. Just another in a long line of politicians.

This country is great because we try to do new things, and don't just sit on asses and bitch like a lot of countries around the world. If you want shit to stay the same.. build a time machine.

[Pancho Villa]

How about we stop expecting the government to "give" us healthcare "for free." Which just means we expect the govt to extort from those who have and give to those who don't.

Or housing or money or whatever.

Hey look, I've just solved the healthcare, housing, medicare, medicaid and social security problems in one sentence. Go me.

[Irving]

If you can solve all those in one term, you've got my vote.






Maybe.

[Elhuero]

both the entrenched rulers in washington and the insatiable welfare class of this country will not give up what they have without a fight.

[RRD3]

If you can solve all those in one term, you've got my vote.






Maybe.

Why is it the responcibility of the government to fix or provide these for you?

IT'S NOT!

lib·er·ty (lbr-t)n. pl. lib·er·ties 1. a. The condition of being free from restriction or control.
b. The right and power to act, believe, or express oneself in a manner of one's own choosing.
c. The condition of being physically and legally free from confinement, servitude, or forced labor. See Synonyms at freedom.

2. Freedom from unjust or undue governmental control.
3. A right or immunity to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the liberties protected by the Bill of Rights.
4. a. A breach or overstepping of propriety or social convention. Often used in the plural.
b. A statement, attitude, or action not warranted by conditions or actualities: a historical novel that takes liberties with chronology.
c. An unwarranted risk; a chance: took foolish liberties on the ski slopes.

5. A period, usually short, during which a sailor is authorized to go ashore.

Idiom: at liberty1. Not in confinement or under constraint; free.
2. Not employed, occupied, or in use.



Do shit for yourself, provide for your self and family, be responsible for your OWN actions.

It amazes me when I hear people say "the government should fix this or that". They shouldn't do a fucking thing.

What is the purpose of government under capitalism?
It is to protect Rights that governments are instituted. A proper government's Only responsibility is to protect the rights of the individual, by banning the initiation of force, thus making all relations between men peaceful, i.e., free from the threat of violence and fraud.