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    New here, but lets give this a go.

    I am a young and troubled voter. Married to another young and troubled voter. My wife and I were both fervent republicans in our formative years, both active college republicans. We were real believers in the party line.

    I think Pancho nailed the key word to us, Principled. I have really felt that the Republican's principles are muddled. I have found no refuge of ethics in the Democratic party either. To clarify, the GOP recently added an piece to their platform seeking a Constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage. I am not trying to argue about gay marriage, what bothers me deeply about this is using our Constitution, a document as a whole used to protect our freedoms and keep Washington government out of our lives, to get government into people's lives. This really rubs me all kinds of the wrong way, because what happens after that's done, what's next on the rights chopping block? guns? religious freedom? choice on schools? I think this is an issue that could be left to the States with no problems, under Amendment 10. In a way it seems like I am only worried about a slippery slope, but frankly I agree with the NRA's stand on protecting rights, not giving up one inch without a fight.

    In terms of one voice, I have to say, I am friends with quite a few young republicans with a bad taste in our mouth all looking for the same thing. In a way, many many similar voices looking for the same thing.

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    They gay marriage thing is just a smoke screen. They need to stop the busy work and get some real goals.

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    If you ask me, it's not just Obama. It's all the bastards in office. All of them have no clue as to what their responsibilities are and what they should be doing as representatives of the people.

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    True RRD3 not one asshole in office is worth a shit.We need to take back our country...
    So called "public" servants are only there for their own well being.

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    On another note I found this:

    Dr. Paul L. Williams
    July 7, 2009

    “In my own life, in my own small way, I have tried to give back to this country that has given me so much,” she said. “See, that’s why I left a job at a big law firm for a career in public service, “ Michelle Obama



    No, Michele Obama does not get paid to serve as the First Lady and she doesn’t perform any official duties. But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers to cater to her every whim and to satisfy her every request in the midst of the Great Recession. Just think Mary Lincoln was taken to task for purchasing china for the White House during the Civil War. And Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary.

    How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of mill ions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:

    $172,200 - Sher, Susan (CHIEF OF STAFF)
    $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY )
    $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND D IRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    Winter, Melissa E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $90,000 - Medina , David S. (DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (DIRECTOR AND PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND ADVANCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    Reinstein, Joseph B. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND EVENTS COORDINATOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADVANCE AND TRIP DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    Lewis, Dana M. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND PERSONAL AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR SCHEDULING AND TRAVELING AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    Tubman, Samantha (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,SOCIAL OFFICE)
    $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (EXECUTIVE AS SISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECR ETARY)
    Bookey, Natalie (STAFF ASSISTANT)
    Jackson, Deilia A. (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    On another note I found this:

    Dr. Paul L. Williams
    July 7, 2009

    “In my own life, in my own small way, I have tried to give back to this country that has given me so much,” she said. “See, that’s why I left a job at a big law firm for a career in public service, “ Michelle Obama



    No, Michele Obama does not get paid to serve as the First Lady and she doesn’t perform any official duties. But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers to cater to her every whim and to satisfy her every request in the midst of the Great Recession. Just think Mary Lincoln was taken to task for purchasing china for the White House during the Civil War. And Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary.

    How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of mill ions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:

    $172,200 - Sher, Susan (CHIEF OF STAFF)
    $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY )
    $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND D IRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    Winter, Melissa E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $90,000 - Medina , David S. (DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (DIRECTOR AND PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND ADVANCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    Reinstein, Joseph B. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
    $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND EVENTS COORDINATOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADVANCE AND TRIP DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    Lewis, Dana M. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND PERSONAL AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR SCHEDULING AND TRAVELING AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
    Tubman, Samantha (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,SOCIAL OFFICE)
    $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (EXECUTIVE AS SISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
    $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECR ETARY)
    Bookey, Natalie (STAFF ASSISTANT)
    Jackson, Deilia A. (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)

    now that right there is absolute fucking bullshit.
    All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break em for no one.

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    You get the job and then you make bull shit positions up to pay back those you owe.

    That's what you see there.


    Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECR ETARY)

    WTF?

    How many assistants of assistants do you need?


    Pardon me.... I'm the assistant to the assistant of the assistants assistant.

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    the assistant head head cleaner, has to have an assitant to take their Twitter's..

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    One good thing about this forum, you can air your beliefs. A lot of what's been posted is what I think durring the day but wouldn't say outloud.

    A few days ago I was waiting in my parked truck (parking lot) when the parked car ahead of me threw out of their window 'fast food' bags and soda cups, made a huge mess. I calmly walked over just to look inside the car. It was a teenager with his mom. The mom looked at me and yelled something to the kid. The kid looked at me and cursed and told me to clean it up. I shook my head in disgust. Another liberal, don't spank the kid, family that raised a ruined human being. That's was my reaction.

    I think responsible people are slowing being out numbered by lazy, ruined excuses for people.

    I said it before and others disagree, but for me it comes down to "in God we trust" or not...

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    Default uncoordinated rebellion?

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Be patient young jedi. do not be drastic or you will be labeled a traitor. time will tell. those who lye in wait will last longest.



    Nice, however... I'm not necessarilly interested in lasting the longest per se. I am interested in freedom and liberty and all those good things! Using the Terminator movies as an example: I don't want to "survive" the rise of the machines. I want to prevent it! Surviving the government's attacks on freedom does not look like very much fun... I would much rather prevent those attacks!

    But here's something to chew on... When the government has "crossed the line" and "gone too far", I will take up my gun and fight back. But fighting as an individual will just get me jailed or killed. Everyone draws the line at a different level. Where is that line for you? How can we coordinate a counter-attack to defend the constitution if we cannot coordinate at all?

    ETA (Edited to Add): ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!

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