What is the actual process?

[BigBear]

So, can someone very specific break down the process?

I.E. I have a Trust that I want to use to purchase a suppresor... I walk into the store; then....?

I've heard so many things and contradictions recently that I'm kind of unsure of the actual process.

I get this: http://www.silencerresearch.com/Silencerguide.pdf

but it doesn't give with this: https://silencerco.com/education/

and other sites I've found.... so

Someone whos been through the actual process with a Trust... Please enlighten me.

[mtnrider]

Go to store and purchase the suppressor. They will help you fill out the required forms. Take the forms along with 2 copies of your trust and a check for $200 and mail off to the ATF. Then wait.

That's it in a nutshell. Pretty straight forward. Now purchasing online is a little different in that it needs to be transferred on a form 3 to a local dealer then on a form 4 to you. Doesn't really change what you have to do just adds another step (takes longer).

[kwando]

My advice is to purchase a suppressor that the store has in stock. That way you can file ASAP for your form 4. Otherwise like mtnrider said, they have to form 3 the suppressor to their store, and that will extend the time frame.

[Great-Kazoo]

Go to store and purchase the suppressor. They will help you fill out the required forms. Take the forms along with 2 copies of your trust and a check for $200 and mail off to the ATF. Then wait.

That's it in a nutshell. Pretty straight forward. Now purchasing online is a little different in that it needs to be transferred on a form 3 to a local dealer then on a form 4 to you. Doesn't really change what you have to do just adds another step (takes longer).

My advice is to purchase a suppressor that the store has in stock. That way you can file ASAP for your form 4. Otherwise like mtnrider said, they have to form 3 the suppressor to their store, and that will extend the time frame.

Agree with both responses........ALSO Don't Forget to Include your Schedule "A" Trust Assets.

if you're purchasing and the employee helping you says umm i'm not sure but go ahead and fill it out. Take a break and come here for clarification. If the one helping you doesn't know, what else don't they know. The waiting period (90days~ for Form 1 and 90-120 tops for a Form 4) is long enough. Finding out one has to submit a Correction doesn't make one a happy camper.

[Brian]

Like anything, the first time seems probably more complicated than it actually is.

Agreed above - in summary, the best advice I can give you is to not try to figure it out yourself the first time. The internet is full of good information, but is also filled full of outdated or plain bad info, and it's not always clear which is which.
Either 1) find a good, well-recommended shop, 2) find a good, well-recommended home-based dealer, or 3) call silencer shop.
Also make sure you understand your trust, either by talking to the lawyer who wrote it or making sure you're 100% solid with where you copied it from/created it from. It seems like in the last year I've had more guys than usual come in for suppressor transfers with trusts they don't understand.

Once you're done with the paperwork for the first one, immediately start on #2, otherwise when #1 comes in you will be kicking yourself for not starting sooner...

[Monky]

I remember my first time...


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

[Great-Kazoo]

I remember my first time...


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Thank you, Lena Dunham

[SAnd]

This may not help your original question but I recommend it anyway-

https://www.atf.gov/content/firearms...s-act-handbook

The ATF National Firearms Act Handbook is a fairly readable, plain language guide to the National Firearms Act. It is information from the source, the ATF. It covers all aspects of the NFA so much of it isn't needed for us stamp collectors. It has plain language descriptions with references to the appropriate laws and regulations which are included in the appendixes. You can download the whole Handbook or individual chapters. Chapter 9 covers transfers, page 59 section 9.4.2.2 talks about legal entity transfers. Chapter 6 covers Form 1 making and registering NFA stuff.

This is the starting source of information for NFA laws and regulations.

Hang in there. Most people involved in NFA stuff will gladly help you.

[Dave_L]

Step 2 is to be ready to be broke because of stamps. Enjoy!

[BigBear]

Alcon, Thank you for the great information.

ALSO Don't Forget to Include your Schedule "A" Trust Assets.

I was under the impression that I do not worry about the Schedule A/Inventory until product is actually in my hand.... am I wrong?

It seems like in the last year I've had more guys than usual come in for suppressor transfers with trusts they don't understand.

Not quite sure I understand what you're saying here... My wife and I are the only Trustees as of now, it is an intended NFA Trust... It is a "Living" Trust... is that bad? It did come from a lawyer.

I remember my first time...

How was that cheeseburger? (kidding)

Step 2 is to be ready to be broke because of stamps. Enjoy!

Yeah... I'm a public school teacher so... I doubt I'll ever really "get into it" the way I would like. But I try the lotto every now and then when I have an extra buck or two. HA!